Please, just stop. Stop. Move to some other place where this is expected conversation. But not here. Alan On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:05 PM, keith smith wrote: > Craig, > > It is obvious you are not interested in the truth. There is > something amiss with Obama. I do not know exactly what. > > I believe everything I provided is the truth or brings into > question what we have been told about our future leader. > > I'll tell you this. I have a 1st amendment right to state my > opinion as do you. I served my country on active duty with the > Marine Corps and later added 6 plus years in the National Guard. > I spent 9 years a uniformed police officer patrolling the > streets of the community I lived in. I have given to my > country, state and city. > > I went to school on the GI Bill, during most of the time working > mid-night shift as a police officer. > > These experiences have shaped who I am today. > > Forgiven? I'm thinking you do not know what forgiven means. > It does > not mean sin free. It does not mean I am pure. > It does not mean I will never sin. > > It means that Jesus died for my sins and if I call on his > name in repentance he will forgive me. He already paid the > wages of my sin. > > Jesus is the sacrificial lamb of God. He paid the price. > It is a done deal. All we have to do is call on the name > of Jesus as ask for forgiveness. As an added bonus he will > let us dwell with him forever. What a great gift. > > If you have not accepted Jesus as your savior I invite > you to pray to Him and turn your life over to him and ask > him to guide you to a Bible based faith filled church. > > If you would like me to pray with you > (or anyone would like me to pray with them) I would be honored. > Contact me off list and I will provide my phone number. > > And yes I am born again. I have dedicated my life to Jesus for > the past 10 years. I read the Bible daily and believe > God is > in charge. I've seen demon possessed people. I've experienced > God's miracles. I've seen God answer prayers. I know God is > real. The past two churches I attended were/are > non-denominational and based on the Bible. > How do I know? Because I read the Bible and tested every last > word they said. > > Am I fallible? Yes I am. Am I a sinner? Yes I am. How do I > know? I read the Bible and it tells me so. > > Just because I question who Obama is does not mean I am not > saved by the blood of Jesus. You cannot take that from me. > How do I know? I read the Bible and it tells me so. > > As you can see I am proud to be a Christian and to be saved > by the shed blood of my savior Jesus. > > So who is this fellow Obama and why is he hiding his history > from me? What does he have to hide. > > I asked the same question when 60 minutes announced that Bush > was hiding his military records. > > I > want to know why McCain's military records are sealed. > > What do these men have to hide. > > You want to be my president then let me see your history. > Otherwise step aside. > > btw Hagee preaches the Bible. > > I invite you to read the Bible and see if what he says cannot be > explained by what what is in it. > > ------------------------ > Keith Smith > > > --- On Wed, 11/5/08, Craig White wrote: > > From: Craig White > Subject: Re: ****Re: We are screwed. > To: klsmith2020@yahoo.com, "Main PLUG discussion list" > > Date: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 4:43 PM > > On Wed, 2008-11-05 at 15:17 -0800, keith smith wrote: > >> I find this interesting the > Obama would not just provide proof >> that he qualifies to be president. >> I feel we all have the right to know. What does he have to hide. >> So again who is this guy? If he is going to be my president I have a > right to know!! >> You say "His history is well documented.". Please provide > proof. > ---- > the truth is out there if you really wanted to see it > > http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iw1At-4G1xuE50oXVFRlBPfR3dqgD945OLU00 > ---- >> >> The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for the last 20 years at the >> Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago's south side, has a long >> history of what even Obama's campaign aides concede is > "inflammatory >> rhetoric," including the assertion that the United States brought on >> the 9/11 attacks with its own "terrorism." >> >> Obama only left the church after he was exposed. >> > http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Story?id=4443788 > ---- > Religion is an ugly topic for this list. Sarah Palin was blessed to ward > off witches. McCain was endorsed by Rev. Hagee who is as off the wall as > they come. Hagee called Hurricane Katrina God's punishment for the sin > practiced in New Orleans and the Holocaust justified because the Jews > didn't accept Jesus Christ. > > Pox on all of their houses > ---- >> William Ayers and his connections to Barack Obama >> > http://www.usnews.com/blogs/barone/2008/8/22/obama-needs-to-explain-his-ties-to-william-ayers.html > ---- > the whole Ayers topic is absurd to it's core... > http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/tny/2008/11/mr-ayerss-neighborhood.html > ---- > >> His wife said "....this is the first time I have been >> happy with America...". Yes it is quoted. Maybe she had just >> come from church and one of those "let's rebuild America" > sermons >> > that Reverend Wright was good a preaching. > ---- > you and I will never know what it was like to grow up black in America. > ---- > >> A privileged African-American, who has not shared the black American > experience >> By birth, blood and training, a Muslim, who has been a member of a > Black-African church for 20 years >> A socialist whose politics are rooted in Marx and whose tactics were > conceived by Alinsky >> A master at shaping his own mythology and completely unqualified to be > Commander in Chief >> http://www.theobamafile.com/ > ---- > you really ought to be ashamed of yourself for repeating such idiotic bile > on > this list. > > Slander by insinuation, association and spread fear, uncertainty and doubt > without even considering that the majority of the newspapers in this country > endorsed Barack Obama for president. > > The funny thing is, I'll bet you call yourself a forgiving Christian. > If > you call yourself a Christian, I will call you a fraud. > > Craig > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss