Dan, Running Linux is about self-sufficiency and maintaining choices. Whats going on here in our broken political system is eliminating our choices. "Buy this or else." It goes against everything we 'hold to be self-evident' in the Free Software world. Free Software people should be united against this bill. -jmz On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:29 AM, Dan Lund wrote: > While OT is a great thing, it has to be somewhat in relation to the > main conversation we have. > Politics is not a good thing for us to talk about since we are a large > variety of people. > Linux or computer related here. > I'm sorry, but I am starting to become a little disheartened by it, > since if we talk about this then there's always someone pulling this > card out at the most inopportune time to shut you up to prove they are > right. I figure it's best to not even start. > > Thanks, > Dan Lund > > To exercise power costs effort and demands courage. That is why so > many fail to assert rights to which they are perfectly entitled - > because a right is a kind of power but they are too lazy or too > cowardly to exercise it. The virtues which cloak these faults are > called patience and forbearance. > -Friedrich Nietzsche > > > > On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Joshua Zeidner wrote: >> Hey all, >> >> sorry for the OT, but I think the gravity of this situation offsets >> the negatives of making this post here. >> >> In case you are not aware, congress is currently considering >> emergency legislation for a supposed 'bailout' of 700 billion dollar >> credit line to the US Treasury in order to provide 'liquidity' to >> credit markets in the US and worldwide. The situation is somewhat >> complex, but what I want to explain here is how it relates to things >> you may see every day as an Arizonan. You have no doubt seen more >> than one totally ridiculous and imprudent mortgage loan dispensed in >> the area over the past few years. You might have assumed that these >> risky loans would be the problem of either the bank or the borrower. >> The alarming aspect to these recent developments are that we as >> Americans have learned that it is in fact *all of us* that are going >> to pay for these bad loans. Does that sound fair to you? And it gets >> better: when we fork up the 700 billion, houses will not even become >> any more affordable. If you are struggling you will continue to >> struggle despite this unprecedented transfer of wealth to the >> treasurer. With 700 billion dollars we could build houses for the >> entire country. This bill amounts to nothing less than robbery. >> >> I truly hope that you consider calling your congressmen and >> congresswomen and voice your opinion to this bill. Your real voice >> makes a difference. >> >> thanks all, and I really hope you call your representatives. We as >> a country have to stop complaining and get involved. Im not really an >> 'activist', Im just a regular American who knows enough about this >> situation to know how much of a tragedy it is. >> >> you can get the phone numbers here by typing in your ZIP code: >> http://www.congress.org/congressorg/home/ >> >> thanks, jmz >> >> -- >> "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World >> War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." --Albert Einstein >> >> - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/ >> --------------------------------------------------- >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." --Albert Einstein - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/ --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss