Joshua Zeidner wrote: > > Charles: lets see the pictures. You can end this discussion, along > with countless conspiracy theories right now by posting the pictures > you claim you have in your possession. > > you can either post the pictures, or many here will assume you are > lying. I never said I had pictures of a/the plane. The plane roared by my window, and at the time, I thought "wtf is a plane doing flying this low in this area", but I had no idea what was going on. Probably 15 minutes had passed by the time any of us (there were 3 of us in the condo at the time) thought to grab a camera and run down the hallway to where we had a vantage point of the Pentagon, and by then of course there was nothing to see but the Pentagon on fire. I said all of this, and included one of the pictures, in a reply last night, but it was moderated, I guess due to the attachment. I assume it is still in the moderator queue. Again, the pictures I have are not anything earth shattering, as it was 15 mins after impact, and I took them from "only" the 24th floor of my building which doesn't have a great angle of view. If I had gone up a few floors or to the roof, the pics would probably be "cooler". I don't like showing the pics because *every* time all I get is harassed, and things like: * "You faked the EXIF data, according to the plane crashed before/after your pics" * "Your aparment was not in the flight path of the plane so you couldn't have seen it" * "You were too far away to really see anything" * "Photoshop!" * "There is no record of a helicopter on the scene that fast" * "That's not even the Pentagon, its just some brush fire" And that is just a sample of the more civil comments. I can't prove that I saw the plane go by my window, or that by a twist of fate my girlfriend wasn't killed in the crash, but I don't really care who believes me or not, any more than I care if you believe that I was at Safeway last night shopping. It is simply something I experienced, and just because I mention it, I get called everything from a liar to a govt conspirator. I honestly wish I had just somehow slept through it all, and could just speculate like everyone else. Here is a gallery of some of the pics: http://www.the-ownage.com/gallery/Pentagon Feel free to DOS my site, try to hack it, post spam comments etc, like everyone else does anytime I have pasted the link over the years. -Charles Again, the pics are not anything exciting, or conspiracy-bashing. --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss