Keith, this is the second time this bill appeared before Congress. Apparently, 'homeland security' trumps the Bill of Rights. Although the issue is quite complex, and in my estimation absolutely reeking of corruption of all kinds, the question that Arizonans should be asking is what business do Giffords and Mitchell have supporting these bills? Giffords has crossed tech workers once before: http://www.joshuazeidner.com/2008/03/azs-own-gabrielle-giffords-votes-to.html Keep in mind that its not only the issue of future violation of our constitutional rights, but of immunizing the telcos against past violations. -jmz On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 1:35 PM, keith smith wrote: > > These searches will not pass the test of the Bill of Rights. They will go > the same way the DC gun law went. > > > > > ------------------------ > Keith Smith > (520) 207-9877 > PHP Programmer > > > > --- On Fri, 6/27/08, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > > From: Joshua Zeidner > Subject: Arizona's Harry Mitchell + Gabrielle Giffords on FISA Bill Watch > List > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 1:00 PM > > BERKELEY, CA—Last week, on June 20, the House of Representatives > approved a > compromise bill to amend the Foreign Intelligence > Surveillance Act of 1978 (FISA). The bill sets new electronic > surveillance rules that effectively shield telecommunications > companies from lawsuits resulting from the government's warrantless > eavesdropping on phone calls and viewing of emails of private citizens > in the U.S. Approximately 40 lawsuits have been filed with potential > damages totaling in the billions of dollars. > > On March 14 of this year the House passed an amendment that rejected > retroactive immunity for phone carriers who helped the National > Security Agency carry out the illegal wiretapping program without > proper warrants. Ninety-four House Democrats voted in favor of this > measure--rejecting immunity--on March 14, then 'changed' to vote in > favor of the June 20 House bill--approving immunity. > > "Why did these ninety-four House members have a change of heart?" > asked Daniel Newman, executive > director of MAPLight.org, "Their > constituents deserve answers." > > http://www.maplight.org/FISA_June08 > > -- > > - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/ > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > -- - http://www.joshuazeidner.com/ --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss