On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Mike Schwartz wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Craig White wrote: >> >> On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 17:17 -0700, Mike Schwartz wrote: >> > On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 4:01 PM, Mike Schwartz wrote: >> > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 2:03 PM, Craig White wrote: >> > > > On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 13:42 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: >> > > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Craig White wrote: >> > > > > > On Mon, 2008-02-25 at 11:28 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: >> > > > > > > On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Mike Schwartz wrote: >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > [4] "[...] the municipal Wi-Fi market isn't dying. [...] But, [...] >> > > > > > > > "taxpayers have lost so far." " >> > > > > > > > -- >> > > > > > > > Mike Schwartz >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > as I've noted on this list before, Muni Wifi was pronounced dead >> > > > > > > before it was ever even born. [...] >> > > > > > ---- >> > > > > > Obviously the consumer was the last consideration of Tempe's Muni WiFi >> > > > > > system [...] >> > > > > >> > > > > As was pointed out on the AZIPA list, the contractor that was chosen >> > > > > was not even an AZ in-state contractor [...] >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Lessig discussed the last mile [...] >> > > > > >> > > > > Can we have some names here? [...] >> > > > ---- >> > > > [...] There seems to >> > > > be a quick charge to the blame game [...] >> > > > >> > > > Craig >> > > > --------------------------------------------------- >> > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - [...] >> > > >> > > Here's a news item: at >> > > http://technews.acm.org/archives.cfm?fo=2008-03-mar/mar-24-2008.html#354574 >> > > it says: << >> > > "Intel Researchers Stretch Wi-Fi to Cover 60 Miles >> > > Network World (03/20/08) Cox, John >> > > >> > > Intel recently demonstrated an 802.11 radio link with a data rate of >> > > approximately 6 Mbps and a range exceeding 60 miles. [...]" >> > > >> >> > > ...and the final "Click Here to View Full Article" is a hyper link to >> > > http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/032008-intel-wi-fi-60-miles.html >> > > (where you may want to click on "Print"; -- (even to read it on-screen)) [...] >> > > -- >> > > Mike Schwartz >> > > [...] >> > >> > Also in the news today (hot off the electronic presses): >> > ("Town of Sebastopol, CA rescinds resolution to provide public Wifi"): >> > http://www.boingboing.net/2008/03/24/town-of-sebastopol-c.html >> > ...now I wonder what the chances are that Tempe will be "Tempted" to >> > do the same? >> ---- >> according to this (just 2 days ago)... >> >> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/22/us/22wireless.html >> >> it's already toast >> >> Craig > > Aha, OK. > Now it sounds like [...] it [canceled wifi plans] happened in other cities first. > In that case, I wonder whether the alleged new tech breakthrough > (that "range exceeding 60 miles [...]" thing) > might turn things around. > -- > Mike Schwartz [...] I just saw this: http://www.archive.org/iathreads/post-view.php?id=186011 it appears to be just for one apt. [condo?] building (240 units) vs. for a whole city -- (so maybe this is Mac OSXs and oranges). but still, it sounds like Hi speed IP for 'some of' the masses, is happening (it is not "game over" quite yet...) -- Mike Schwartz Glendale AZ schwartz@acm.org --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss