Agree 100 percent. Only 'stupids' pay for adobe any more.. Stupid being the 'uninformed' that there exists freebies. --- Kurt Granroth wrote: > PDF is an "ad hoc" standard right now. It is on the > path to being an > official standard (ISO 32000) but it's not there > yet. Honestly, saying > it's not a standard because it doesn't have an ISO > code attached to it > is nit-picking to an extreme. > > Adobe has always released the specifications of PDF > and anybody is free > to implement it. Yes, Adobe does charge for their > Acrobat Professional > suite, but it's hardly required. There are scads of > PDF-capable apps > out there. Heck, OS X works with PDF as a native > subsystem. In no > cases do you have to pay any sort of royalty or sign > any agreement with > Adobe to implement it. > > To sum: > 1. Specification widely available... Check > 2. Anybody can implement the spec royalty and patent > free (now that the > LZW patent has expired)... Check > 3. Documents in PDF format are pervasively and > inescapably common... Check > 4. A multitude of 3rd party reader and writers for > PDF... Check > > If that's not a standard, then we have very > different ideas on what a > standard is. :-) > > eculbert wrote: > > No more than windows is a 'standard' I believe. It > IS > > wide spread, but with the exception of the windoze > > reader, adobe charges, but the ability to > implement > > apparently is NOT infringement or all the major > > distro's would be being sued by Adobe. So IF that > is > > what makes it a standard, then so be it. > > > > My quarter cent worth. > > > > Ed > > > > --- Chris Gehlker wrote: > > > >> On May 24, 2008, at 2:36 PM, der.hans wrote: > >> > >>> Is PDF a standard? I thought PDF was owned and > run > >> by Adobe, but > >>> they were > >>> allowing 3rd party implementation. > >> Wikipedia says it's a standard: > >> > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail > settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss Ed/ke7feg Did I mention, 2/23/07 the FCC dropped all cw (AKA Morse code) testing for any class of license as a ham? Just pass the written and "U's a ham"!! Many sites test online, but you have to go for the real test. $14 for as high as you can climb in one session. --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss