That person reformatted the hd, then tried and successfully got xp sp1 to load and it will boot. But the cox connection wont boot from the computer to the cox box. The external box says by the idiot lights that it is talking to the outside world according to her, but the computer no longer connects to the internet after she tried to upgrade the amd 64 3000 and msi board to the service pack 3. Apparently something in the bios or somewhere firmware changed. Sounds like the eth0 connection isn't doing its thing after the sp3 messed with the computer. I may get her brother to haul my old system down to make sure that the cox box works to the internet. Any ideas? One idea I have is to first try and figure out how to get to the bios at startup.. (delete, f-1, etc) and tell it to reset to factory or do you think this is feasible solution? Second Idea. Could sp3 have somehow hosed the firmware in her ethernet card? Ed/ke7feg Did I mention, 2/23/07 the FCC dropped all cw (AKA Morse code) testing for any class of license as a ham? Just pass the written and "U's a ham"!! Many sites test online, but you have to go for the real test. $14 for as high as you can climb in one session. --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss