I would like to clarify....trixbox is a great system but the package manager sometimes has very broken things onit. Or you are forced into having the versions of asterisk and zaptel that trixbox wants to release etc. It is a great system if you want a system that you dont change or update often. PBX in a flash builds a generic CentOS base and then runs scripts to build asterisk/zaptel and freePBX (the web GUI) and still has everything but the end point manager. My last comment was a bit calus so I felt the need to clarify a bit...=-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geek Girl" To: "Main PLUG discussion list" Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 6:17 PM Subject: Re: Adterisk (geek girl) > That depends lol. If you want a system that is controlled by a package > manager and that most of the time is screwed up go with trixbox... > If you want something that has tons of community support and that you can > compile with from source and that is still using a CentOS5 base I would go > with PBX in a flash.... > > The only real thing that trixbox has going for it really is the endpoint > manager... > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael March" > To: > Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2008 2:45 PM > Subject: Re: Adterisk (geek girl) > > >> I'm about to install Trixbox today... Should I stop and try Pbx in a >> Flash instead? >> >> On 3/1/08, plug-discuss-request@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >> wrote: >>> Send PLUG-discuss mailing list submissions to >>> plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> >>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >>> plug-discuss-request@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at >>> plug-discuss-owner@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> >>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >>> than "Re: Contents of PLUG-discuss digest..." >>> >>> >>> Today's Topics: >>> >>> 1. Annual FSF Membership Meeting Mar 15 at MIT (Dennis Kibbe) >>> 2. Re: decision processes that don't occur in open source >>> (alexanderhenry@cox.net) >>> 3. Drupal help (Stephen P Rufle) >>> 4. Asterisk to FXO or FXS (geekgirl28@cox.net) >>> 5. Re: decision processes that don't occur in open source >>> (Technomage-hawke) >>> 6. Re: Drupal help (Matt Graham) >>> 7. OT: "A renewed wish for open document standards" Google slams >>> OOXML (again) (Mike Schwartz) >>> 8. Re: Asterisk (tjones@fastq.com) >>> 9. Re: Asterisk (Geek Girl) >>> 10. Re: Asterisk (Geek Girl) >>> 11. Re: Asterisk (tjones@fastq.com) >>> 12. Need Email Setup Advice (Mark Phillips) >>> 13. Suse Linux 10.3 help requested (Frank Mandato) >>> 14. Re: Suse Linux 10.3 help requested (Matt Graham) >>> 15. Re: Need Email Setup Advice (Craig White) >>> 16. RE: Suse Linux 10.3 help requested (Frank Mandato) >>> 17. RE: Suse Linux 10.3 help requested (Matt Graham) >>> >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Message: 1 >>> Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:20:00 -0700 >>> From: Dennis Kibbe >>> Subject: Annual FSF Membership Meeting Mar 15 at MIT >>> To: Dennis Kibbe >>> Message-ID: <1201116001.3381.27.camel@d810.sahuaro.us> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>> >>> The Annual FSF Associate Membership Meeting will be on Saturday, March >>> 15, 2008 from 9:15 AM - 5:50 PM in Cambridge, MA at MIT. More details >>> here. >>> >>> http://www.fsf.org/associate/meetings/2008 >>> >>> There is no charge for the event and if you are not a member you can >>> join on the FSF site. Membership is payable in a yearly amount or you >>> can pay monthly. >>> >>> The annual membership meetings are a great opportunity to give your >>> voice the campaigns to fight for software freedom in the year ahead. >>> >>> The meeting is also a good opportunity to discuss issues with many of >>> the big names in the movement. RMS will, of course, be there as will >>> Eben Moglen. B. Mako Smith is the newest member of the board. >>> >>> The meeting usually start with a key signing party and there are >>> opportunities throughout the day to do a little social networking. >>> >>> Dennisk >>> -- >>> Member Free Software Foundation >>> "Free as in Freedom" >>> -------------- next part -------------- >>> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... >>> Name: not available >>> Type: application/pgp-signature >>> Size: 189 bytes >>> Desc: This is a digitally signed message part >>> Url : >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/pipermail/plug-discuss/attachments/20080123/5be576cb/attachment-0001.pgp >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 2 >>> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 13:36:57 -0700 >>> From: >>> Subject: Re: decision processes that don't occur in open source >>> To: Main PLUG discussion list >>> Message-ID: <20080229153657.67EF8.27598.imail@fed1rmwml04> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> >>> Shirley, you're joking. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 3 >>> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:08:06 -0700 >>> From: Stephen P Rufle >>> Subject: Drupal help >>> To: PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> Message-ID: <47C87436.4000206@cox.net> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >>> >>> Anyone on the list have mad Drupal skills :) >>> >>> I am creating an online commerce site and would like to use Drupal to >>> put the site together. First are there good books to read, or are most >>> of the books just rehashes of what is available online. Second if >>> someone has mad skill, would that person be willing to tutor me for an >>> exchange of dinner at some later date. >>> >>> My current list of possible issues. >>> >>> * theming - I know enough how to install new ones , but what do I do if >>> I like most of a theme but need something specific ( does it require a >>> little or a lot of PHP experience) >>> * product catalog / shopping cart - I currently only have a single >>> product but hope to add more, is there a known leader in product catalog >>> and/or shopping carts >>> * general gotchas - what should I be aware of as I start ( any advice on >>> security, how to admin Drupal so the finished site is structured >>> logically anything like that) >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 4 >>> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:12:42 -0500 >>> From: >>> Subject: Asterisk to FXO or FXS >>> To: Main PLUG discussion list , >>> stephen.p.rufle@cox.net >>> Message-ID: <20080229161242.1L3C3.2983.imail@fed1rmwml35> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >>> >>> If you have a phone line coming in you will need an FXO card. It is good >>> to >>> remember that FXS provides the voltage, and FXO receives the voltage. >>> Rhino >>> cards are a great and dependable solution for this! >>> >>> ;) >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 5 >>> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:38:14 -0700 >>> From: Technomage-hawke >>> Subject: Re: decision processes that don't occur in open source >>> To: Main PLUG discussion list >>> Message-ID: <200802291438.14728.technomage.hawke@gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> On Friday 29 February 2008, alexanderhenry@cox.net wrote: >>> > Shirley, you're joking. >>> > >>> >>> "no I'm not joking and quit calling me Shirley!" >>> >>> HAHAHA >>> >>> airplane! what a funny movie! >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 6 >>> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 15:03:21 -0700 >>> From: "Matt Graham" >>> Subject: Re: Drupal help >>> To: Main PLUG discussion list >>> Message-ID: <941mBCwcV9994S03.1204322601@cmsweb03.cms.usa.net> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>> >>> From: Stephen P Rufle >>> > I am creating an online commerce site and would like to use Drupal. >>> >>> > * theming - I know enough how to install new ones , but what do I do >>> > if >>> > I like most of a theme but need something specific ( does it require >>> > a >>> > little or a lot of PHP experience) >>> >>> drupal themes, like wordpress themes, have both PHP and CSS components. >>> If these things are like wordpress themes, the actual HTML that gets >>> generated depends on both the PHP and the CSS. What's more, the theme >>> logic can be in either one unless they've standardized the drupal themes >>> more than they've standardized the wordpress themes. >>> >>> The good news is that modifying the PHP bits won't require a lot of PHP >>> experience. Lots of the theme bits are in the HTML parts of the PHP, >>> so you just change the
to
in the >>> right spot(s). And the other bits are in relatively simple >> print "stuff junk things" ?> sections of code. >>> >>> You'll have to learn some CSS. It's not that difficult, there's just a >>> lot of keywords to remember. And building a layout that doesn't look >>> like something the dog dragged in requires practice. >>> >>> > * product catalog / shopping cart - I currently only have a single >>> > product but hope to add more, is there a known leader in product >>> > catalog >>> > and/or shopping carts >>> > * general gotchas - what should I be aware of as I start ( any advice >>> > on >>> > security, how to admin Drupal so the finished site is structured >>> > logically anything like that) >>> >>> Good questions. It might be worthwhile to check freshmeat.net for >>> keywords >>> "shopping cart" and "drupal" and see what you can find. >>> >>> -- >>> Matt G / Dances With Crows >>> The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.dyndns.org:8080/wordpress/ >>> There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 7 >>> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 16:50:01 -0700 >>> From: "Mike Schwartz" >>> Subject: OT: "A renewed wish for open document standards" Google slams >>> OOXML (again) >>> To: "PLUG-discuss mailing list" >>> >>> Cc: Mike L Schwartz >>> Message-ID: >>> <88a13c810802291550k5bb114baqcfcf149d56fb2c80@mail.gmail.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>> >>> and they explain ** so eloquently **, [once again] why it would be bad: >>> >>> http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2008/02/renewed-wish-for-open-document.html >>> -- >>> Mike Schwartz >>> Glendale AZ >>> schwartz@acm.org >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 8 >>> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:30:21 -0700 >>> From: tjones@fastq.com >>> Subject: Re: Asterisk >>> To: Main PLUG discussion list >>> Message-ID: <1204331421.47c8a39d24888@webmail.fastq.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>> >>> FXO >>> >>> I've been playing with Asterisk off and on for a few months, it >>> interoperates >>> with POTS just fine with my configuration. I have found, though, that I >>> have >>> trouble detecting when cell phones hang up. Of course, I have cheap >>> hardware, >>> so it's not all that surprising. >>> >>> Quoting "Jon M. Hanson" : >>> >>> > >>> > On Feb 28, 2008, at 10:14 PM, der.hans wrote: >>> > >>> > > Am 28. Feb, 2008 schw?tzte Geek Girl so: >>> > > >>> > > moin moin, >>> > > >>> > >> Does anyone here use Asterisk at all? If so what distros do you >>> > >> like using? Or do you just build up from a base distro? >>> > > >>> > > Sequoia is using Asterisk for several campuses, including the ones >>> > > that >>> > > host our meetings. Brian also setup Asterisk to work as the school >>> > > bell >>> > > for at least one of the campuses. >>> > > >>> > > Rhino Equipment, a local Asterisk telephony vendor, is planning on >>> > > being >>> > > at the next east side meeting, which is 2 weeks from tonight. >>> > > They'll >>> > > be there incognito to see how we work and maybe talk about starting >>> > > an >>> > > Asterisk users group. >>> > > >>> > > I'd prefer it if they just started bringing Asterisk topics to >>> > > PLUG, but I >>> > > might be somewhat biased ;-). >>> > > >>> > > ciao, >>> > > >>> > > der.hans >>> > > -- >>> > > # https://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.CiscoLearning.org/ >>> > > Roses are #FF0000, >>> > > Violets are #0000FF, >>> > > All my base, >>> > > Are belong to >>> > > you.--------------------------------------------------- >>> > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >>> > One of the projects I'd like to do in my house in the future sometime >>> > is to have an Asterisk PBX. I still want to keep my analog phone >>> > connection so I have to buy the FXS (or was it FXO) card to make that >>> > interface. Is anyone else using Asterisk in their home and using it >>> > to connect to Qwest? >>> > >>> > --------------------------------------------------- >>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------- >>> FastQ Communications >>> Providing Innovative Internet Solutions Since 1993 >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 9 >>> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:38:40 -0700 >>> From: "Geek Girl" >>> Subject: Re: Asterisk >>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>> >>> Message-ID: <000601c87b34$9885cac0$0301a8c0@supportlaptop> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> Have you tried bumping up your rxgain a bit in /etc/zapata.conf >>> abit...just >>> by a few digits... >>> This helps in some cases...Depending on what card you >>> have you can monitor zttool and see if zaptel is letting go of the line >>> or >>> if it is asterisk hanging on to the line. >>> Then at least you would have some more insight on the situation and be >>> able >>> to debug it better... >>> >>> Just some helpful tips... =-) >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: >>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:30 PM >>> Subject: Re: Asterisk >>> >>> >>> FXO >>> >>> I've been playing with Asterisk off and on for a few months, it >>> interoperates >>> with POTS just fine with my configuration. I have found, though, that I >>> have >>> trouble detecting when cell phones hang up. Of course, I have cheap >>> hardware, >>> so it's not all that surprising. >>> >>> Quoting "Jon M. Hanson" : >>> >>> > >>> > On Feb 28, 2008, at 10:14 PM, der.hans wrote: >>> > >>> > > Am 28. Feb, 2008 schw?tzte Geek Girl so: >>> > > >>> > > moin moin, >>> > > >>> > >> Does anyone here use Asterisk at all? If so what distros do you >>> > >> like using? Or do you just build up from a base distro? >>> > > >>> > > Sequoia is using Asterisk for several campuses, including the ones >>> > > that >>> > > host our meetings. Brian also setup Asterisk to work as the school >>> > > bell >>> > > for at least one of the campuses. >>> > > >>> > > Rhino Equipment, a local Asterisk telephony vendor, is planning on >>> > > being >>> > > at the next east side meeting, which is 2 weeks from tonight. >>> > > They'll >>> > > be there incognito to see how we work and maybe talk about starting >>> > > an >>> > > Asterisk users group. >>> > > >>> > > I'd prefer it if they just started bringing Asterisk topics to >>> > > PLUG, but I >>> > > might be somewhat biased ;-). >>> > > >>> > > ciao, >>> > > >>> > > der.hans >>> > > -- >>> > > # https://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.CiscoLearning.org/ >>> > > Roses are #FF0000, >>> > > Violets are #0000FF, >>> > > All my base, >>> > > Are belong to >>> > > you.--------------------------------------------------- >>> > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >>> > One of the projects I'd like to do in my house in the future sometime >>> > is to have an Asterisk PBX. I still want to keep my analog phone >>> > connection so I have to buy the FXS (or was it FXO) card to make that >>> > interface. Is anyone else using Asterisk in their home and using it >>> > to connect to Qwest? >>> > >>> > --------------------------------------------------- >>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------- >>> FastQ Communications >>> Providing Innovative Internet Solutions Since 1993 >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 10 >>> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:47:47 -0700 >>> From: "Geek Girl" >>> Subject: Re: Asterisk >>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>> >>> Message-ID: <002201c87b35$e03015f0$0301a8c0@supportlaptop> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >>> reply-type=original >>> >>> correction... >>> >>> /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf >>> >>> sorry about that...its been a loooong day lol >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Geek Girl" >>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:38 PM >>> Subject: Re: Asterisk >>> >>> >>> Have you tried bumping up your rxgain a bit in /etc/zapata.conf >>> abit...just >>> by a few digits... >>> This helps in some cases...Depending on what card you >>> have you can monitor zttool and see if zaptel is letting go of the line >>> or >>> if it is asterisk hanging on to the line. >>> Then at least you would have some more insight on the situation and be >>> able >>> to debug it better... >>> >>> Just some helpful tips... =-) >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: >>> To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:30 PM >>> Subject: Re: Asterisk >>> >>> >>> FXO >>> >>> I've been playing with Asterisk off and on for a few months, it >>> interoperates >>> with POTS just fine with my configuration. I have found, though, that I >>> have >>> trouble detecting when cell phones hang up. Of course, I have cheap >>> hardware, >>> so it's not all that surprising. >>> >>> Quoting "Jon M. Hanson" : >>> >>> > >>> > On Feb 28, 2008, at 10:14 PM, der.hans wrote: >>> > >>> > > Am 28. Feb, 2008 schw?tzte Geek Girl so: >>> > > >>> > > moin moin, >>> > > >>> > >> Does anyone here use Asterisk at all? If so what distros do you >>> > >> like using? Or do you just build up from a base distro? >>> > > >>> > > Sequoia is using Asterisk for several campuses, including the ones >>> > > that >>> > > host our meetings. Brian also setup Asterisk to work as the school >>> > > bell >>> > > for at least one of the campuses. >>> > > >>> > > Rhino Equipment, a local Asterisk telephony vendor, is planning on >>> > > being >>> > > at the next east side meeting, which is 2 weeks from tonight. >>> > > They'll >>> > > be there incognito to see how we work and maybe talk about starting >>> > > an >>> > > Asterisk users group. >>> > > >>> > > I'd prefer it if they just started bringing Asterisk topics to >>> > > PLUG, but I >>> > > might be somewhat biased ;-). >>> > > >>> > > ciao, >>> > > >>> > > der.hans >>> > > -- >>> > > # https://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.CiscoLearning.org/ >>> > > Roses are #FF0000, >>> > > Violets are #0000FF, >>> > > All my base, >>> > > Are belong to >>> > > you.--------------------------------------------------- >>> > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >>> > One of the projects I'd like to do in my house in the future sometime >>> > is to have an Asterisk PBX. I still want to keep my analog phone >>> > connection so I have to buy the FXS (or was it FXO) card to make that >>> > interface. Is anyone else using Asterisk in their home and using it >>> > to connect to Qwest? >>> > >>> > --------------------------------------------------- >>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------- >>> FastQ Communications >>> Providing Innovative Internet Solutions Since 1993 >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> --------------------------------------------------- >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 11 >>> Date: Fri, 29 Feb 2008 18:22:31 -0700 >>> From: tjones@fastq.com >>> Subject: Re: Asterisk >>> To: Main PLUG discussion list >>> Message-ID: <1204334551.47c8afd78a651@webmail.fastq.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>> >>> Thanks for the tip. Next time I've got the box up I'll give it a try. >>> Certainly can't make it any worse. >>> >>> Quoting Geek Girl : >>> >>> > correction... >>> > >>> > /etc/asterisk/zapata.conf >>> > >>> > sorry about that...its been a loooong day lol >>> > >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "Geek Girl" >>> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>> > >>> > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:38 PM >>> > Subject: Re: Asterisk >>> > >>> > >>> > Have you tried bumping up your rxgain a bit in /etc/zapata.conf >>> abit...just >>> > by a few digits... >>> > This helps in some cases...Depending on what card you >>> > have you can monitor zttool and see if zaptel is letting go of the >>> > line >>> or >>> > if it is asterisk hanging on to the line. >>> > Then at least you would have some more insight on the situation and be >>> able >>> > to debug it better... >>> > >>> > Just some helpful tips... =-) >>> > >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: >>> > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>> > >>> > Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 5:30 PM >>> > Subject: Re: Asterisk >>> > >>> > >>> > FXO >>> > >>> > I've been playing with Asterisk off and on for a few months, it >>> > interoperates >>> > with POTS just fine with my configuration. I have found, though, that >>> > I >>> > have >>> > trouble detecting when cell phones hang up. Of course, I have cheap >>> > hardware, >>> > so it's not all that surprising. >>> > >>> > Quoting "Jon M. Hanson" : >>> > >>> > > >>> > > On Feb 28, 2008, at 10:14 PM, der.hans wrote: >>> > > >>> > > > Am 28. Feb, 2008 schw?tzte Geek Girl so: >>> > > > >>> > > > moin moin, >>> > > > >>> > > >> Does anyone here use Asterisk at all? If so what distros do you >>> > > >> like using? Or do you just build up from a base distro? >>> > > > >>> > > > Sequoia is using Asterisk for several campuses, including the ones >>> > > > that >>> > > > host our meetings. Brian also setup Asterisk to work as the school >>> > > > bell >>> > > > for at least one of the campuses. >>> > > > >>> > > > Rhino Equipment, a local Asterisk telephony vendor, is planning on >>> > > > being >>> > > > at the next east side meeting, which is 2 weeks from tonight. >>> > > > They'll >>> > > > be there incognito to see how we work and maybe talk about >>> > > > starting >>> > > > an >>> > > > Asterisk users group. >>> > > > >>> > > > I'd prefer it if they just started bringing Asterisk topics to >>> > > > PLUG, but I >>> > > > might be somewhat biased ;-). >>> > > > >>> > > > ciao, >>> > > > >>> > > > der.hans >>> > > > -- >>> > > > # https://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.CiscoLearning.org/ >>> > > > Roses are #FF0000, >>> > > > Violets are #0000FF, >>> > > > All my base, >>> > > > Are belong to >>> > > > you.--------------------------------------------------- >>> > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > > >>> > > One of the projects I'd like to do in my house in the future >>> > > sometime >>> > > is to have an Asterisk PBX. I still want to keep my analog phone >>> > > connection so I have to buy the FXS (or was it FXO) card to make >>> > > that >>> > > interface. Is anyone else using Asterisk in their home and using it >>> > > to connect to Qwest? >>> > > >>> > > --------------------------------------------------- >>> > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > ------------------------------------------------- >>> > FastQ Communications >>> > Providing Innovative Internet Solutions Since 1993 >>> > >>> > --------------------------------------------------- >>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >>> > --------------------------------------------------- >>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >>> > --------------------------------------------------- >>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------- >>> FastQ Communications >>> Providing Innovative Internet Solutions Since 1993 >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 12 >>> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 10:50:56 -0700 >>> From: Mark Phillips >>> Subject: Need Email Setup Advice >>> To: PLUG >>> Message-ID: <1204393856.4657.75.camel@narwhale> >>> Content-Type: text/plain >>> >>> I want to try using the Funambol server with my blackberry. Funambol is >>> a push email/pim Open Source replacement for the proprietary Blackberry >>> Information Server. >>> >>> Funambol needs to talk to an IMAP email server to synchronize the inbox >>> and other folders. However, my cox account only offers POP3. I have been >>> trying to find the glue to get email from cox to Funambol. Cox blocks >>> port 25, so I cannot just use my own mail server with my domains. >>> >>> I have been googling around and think I have one possible solution, but >>> I am not sure it is the simplest. >>> >>> 1. zoneedit to send email from mydomain.com to my cox account >>> 2. Getmail to download mail from cox. >>> 3. Postfix & dovecot & amavirus to store email and make it available to >>> funambol >>> >>> #3 comes from this article - >>> http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/ and it was very easy to set >>> up. >>> >>> Is this setup overkill for my application? Should I look at other ways >>> to meet my objectives? >>> >>> Two other wrinkles - I have 2 domains, and each user gets & send email >>> on the two domains (total of 5 users). I am running Debian etch. >>> >>> Thanks for any advice you have on ways to simplify this setup. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 13 >>> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 17:44:39 +0000 >>> From: Frank Mandato >>> Subject: Suse Linux 10.3 help requested >>> To: >>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I have a couple of minor glitches with this distro and would >>> appreciate >>> any help and advice on how to solve them. >>> >>> First my system. MB is a Gigabyte G1 Turbo with on board sound and >>> lan. >>> It >>> is a 64 bit system running on an X86 platform with plenty of ram and a >>> NVidia GEForce6800GS video card. >>> >>> Problem No.1: I have no mouse pointer, yet the mouse works. I have to >>> drag >>> and click on my desktop to see where my mouse pointer should be. I >>> edited >>> the xorg.conf file to turn off the HW pointer and then turn on the SW >>> pointer, and the other way around, just to make sure, no success. The >>> pointer works perfectly well during the install, no problem there. The >>> mouse >>> is a MS Optical USB mouse and that is what Sax2 sees and writes in to >>> the >>> config file. >>> >>> Problem No.2: I can only get a 16 bit color palette, anything higher >>> than >>> that will not work. I downloaded the appropriate driver from Nvidia via >>> yast >>> at the command line and add the nvidia url to the community >>> repositories, >>> no >>> success. I would like to be able to get everything I can out of my video >>> card, but I can also live with the resolution that I currently have. >>> >>> Problem No. 3: No sound. I have on board sound hardware and the legacy >>> alsa driver does not produce any sound. I had alwas had trouble with >>> alsa, >>> never able to configure any sound card properly, a real weak point for >>> me. >>> >>> Thanks in advance for any help or directions where I can go to look >>> things >>> up. >>> >>> I apologize in case this email comes across in HTML and not just >>> text, >>> I >>> will have that working by sometime next week. >>> >>> FrankM >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! >>> http://biggestloser.msn.com/ >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 14 >>> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 11:09:08 -0700 >>> From: "Matt Graham" >>> Subject: Re: Suse Linux 10.3 help requested >>> To: Main PLUG discussion list >>> Message-ID: <926mcasii6068S27.1204394948@cmsweb27.cms.usa.net> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>> >>> From: Frank Mandato >>> > I have a couple of minor glitches with [Suse Linux 10.3] >>> >>> The quality of SuSE took a sharp nosedive around version 8.0, >>> so much so that I switched to Gentoo. AFAICT, there have >>> always been many, many stupid bugs in SuSE that are just not >>> there on Debian-based things or Gentoo. >>> >>> > Gigabyte G1 Turbo with on board sound and lan. It is a 64 >>> > bit system running on an X86 platform >>> >>> Are you running this thing as x86_64, or x86? This could be >>> important, and it's not clear from what you wrote. >>> >>> > NVidia GEForce6800GS video card. >>> > Problem No.1: I have no mouse pointer, yet the mouse works. >>> > I edited the xorg.conf file to turn off the HW [cursor] and >>> > then turn on the SW [cursor], no success. >>> >>> Install the evil binary-only module from nVidia and use it. >>> >>> > I can only get a 16 bit color palette, anything higher than >>> > that will not work. I downloaded the appropriate driver from >>> > Nvidia via yast at the command line >>> >>> Is X using the evil nVidia module? "grep Driver >>> /etc/X11/xorg.conf" should return one line with "nvidia" in >>> it. You also need to have the evil kernel module loaded. >>> "lsmod | grep nv" should return at least one line with >>> "nvidia" in it. >>> >>> > No sound. The legacy alsa driver does not produce any sound. >>> > I had always had trouble with alsa >>> >>> ALSA is "legacy"? Good grief. Post the output of "lspci | >>> grep -i audio" so we can see what sound chip you have. What's >>> worked for me is just running alsaconf as root from the command >>> line, but then I'm not using SuSE. Also, ALSA always starts >>> all sound cards up as muted. Most distros have a script that >>> runs at boot that pulls the volumes that were set at the last >>> shutdown and sets the card to those volumes. >>> >>> Also also, check the plugs. The last motherboard I bought, I >>> plugged the speakers into the wrong jack, and wasted half an >>> hour wondering what my ALSA setup had barfed on. >>> >>> -- >>> Matt G / Dances With Crows >>> The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.dyndns.org:8080/wordpress/ >>> There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 15 >>> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 11:42:02 -0700 >>> From: Craig White >>> Subject: Re: Need Email Setup Advice >>> To: Main PLUG discussion list >>> Message-ID: <1204396922.21462.31.camel@lin-workstation.azapple.com> >>> Content-Type: text/plain >>> >>> On Sat, 2008-03-01 at 10:50 -0700, Mark Phillips wrote: >>> > I want to try using the Funambol server with my blackberry. Funambol >>> > is >>> > a push email/pim Open Source replacement for the proprietary >>> > Blackberry >>> > Information Server. >>> > >>> > Funambol needs to talk to an IMAP email server to synchronize the >>> > inbox >>> > and other folders. However, my cox account only offers POP3. I have >>> > been >>> > trying to find the glue to get email from cox to Funambol. Cox blocks >>> > port 25, so I cannot just use my own mail server with my domains. >>> > >>> > I have been googling around and think I have one possible solution, >>> > but >>> > I am not sure it is the simplest. >>> > >>> > 1. zoneedit to send email from mydomain.com to my cox account >>> > 2. Getmail to download mail from cox. >>> > 3. Postfix & dovecot & amavirus to store email and make it available >>> > to >>> > funambol >>> > >>> > #3 comes from this article - >>> > http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-etch/ and it was very easy to >>> > set >>> > up. >>> > >>> > Is this setup overkill for my application? Should I look at other ways >>> > to meet my objectives? >>> > >>> > Two other wrinkles - I have 2 domains, and each user gets & send email >>> > on the two domains (total of 5 users). I am running Debian etch. >>> > >>> > Thanks for any advice you have on ways to simplify this setup. >>> ---- >>> 1. You can use 'smarthost' settings on postfix or sendmail to relay >>> outbound mail through their smtp server. That is the simplest thing to >>> do. >>> >>> 2. I have never used 'getmail' but I do use 'fetchmail' which retrieves >>> e-mail using various protocols (pop3 is one of them) which then feeds >>> the mail through my setup of MailScanner/postfix/cyrus-imapd. >>> MailScanner is like amavisd-new...a wrapper that checks incoming mail >>> and sends it through clamav, spamassassin before delivery. >>> >>> 3. Dovecot is fine as an imap server (I prefer cyrus-imapd but dovecot >>> is simpler). >>> >>> 4. You are likely going to have to set up a local DNS to handle e-mail - >>> I don't see much value in using something like zoneedit unless you >>> expect offsite connections and Cox blocks ports 25 & 80 on >>> DHCP/residential accounts anyway. >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 16 >>> Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 19:07:17 +0000 >>> From: Frank Mandato >>> Subject: RE: Suse Linux 10.3 help requested >>> To: Main PLUG discussion list >>> Message-ID: >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >>> >>> >>> Matt, >>> >>> Thank you very much for your superfast answer. >>> >>> Unfortunately, I am not good enough to install Gentoo, tried it a few >>> years ago and I never could get it to work right, not their fault, my >>> not >>> knowing enough about Linux was at fault. >>> >>> I have installed this system and I am running it as an X86_64, sorry >>> I >>> wan't clear on that. >>> >>> Here is what I get when I "grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf" >>> ********************** >>> grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf >>> Driver "kbd" >>> Driver "mouse" >>> Driver "nv" >>> *********************** >>> >>> "lsmod | grep nv" did not return anything at all. >>> >>> Here is the output from "lspci | grep -i audio" >>> >>> 03:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS >>> >>> When I go in to Yast to configure that sound card, it days say >>> "legacy" >>> so >>> I thought that this is a legacy sound card. >>> >>> Hope this helps. I did forget to mention that I have re-installed 10.3 >>> and >>> that is why I do not have the downloaded Nvidia driver on it any longer. >>> >>> Thanks Matt. >>> >>> FrankM >>> >>> ---------------------------------------- >>> > Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 11:09:08 -0700 >>> > From: danceswithcrows@usa.net >>> > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > Subject: Re: Suse Linux 10.3 help requested >>> > >>> > From: Frank Mandato >>> >> I have a couple of minor glitches with [Suse Linux 10.3] >>> > >>> > The quality of SuSE took a sharp nosedive around version 8.0, >>> > so much so that I switched to Gentoo. AFAICT, there have >>> > always been many, many stupid bugs in SuSE that are just not >>> > there on Debian-based things or Gentoo. >>> > >>> >> Gigabyte G1 Turbo with on board sound and lan. It is a 64 >>> >> bit system running on an X86 platform >>> > >>> > Are you running this thing as x86_64, or x86? This could be >>> > important, and it's not clear from what you wrote. >>> > >>> >> NVidia GEForce6800GS video card. >>> >> Problem No.1: I have no mouse pointer, yet the mouse works. >>> >> I edited the xorg.conf file to turn off the HW [cursor] and >>> >> then turn on the SW [cursor], no success. >>> > >>> > Install the evil binary-only module from nVidia and use it. >>> > >>> >> I can only get a 16 bit color palette, anything higher than >>> >> that will not work. I downloaded the appropriate driver from >>> >> Nvidia via yast at the command line >>> > >>> > Is X using the evil nVidia module? "grep Driver >>> > /etc/X11/xorg.conf" should return one line with "nvidia" in >>> > it. You also need to have the evil kernel module loaded. >>> > "lsmod | grep nv" should return at least one line with >>> > "nvidia" in it. >>> > >>> >> No sound. The legacy alsa driver does not produce any sound. >>> >> I had always had trouble with alsa >>> > >>> > ALSA is "legacy"? Good grief. Post the output of "lspci | >>> > grep -i audio" so we can see what sound chip you have. What's >>> > worked for me is just running alsaconf as root from the command >>> > line, but then I'm not using SuSE. Also, ALSA always starts >>> > all sound cards up as muted. Most distros have a script that >>> > runs at boot that pulls the volumes that were set at the last >>> > shutdown and sets the card to those volumes. >>> > >>> > Also also, check the plugs. The last motherboard I bought, I >>> > plugged the speakers into the wrong jack, and wasted half an >>> > hour wondering what my ALSA setup had barfed on. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Matt G / Dances With Crows >>> > The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.dyndns.org:8080/wordpress/ >>> > There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see >>> > >>> > >>> > --------------------------------------------------- >>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail?-get >>> your >>> "fix". >>> http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> Message: 17 >>> Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2008 12:27:46 -0700 >>> From: "Matt Graham" >>> Subject: RE: Suse Linux 10.3 help requested >>> To: Main PLUG discussion list >>> Message-ID: <926mcaTAU6972S20.1204399666@cmsweb20.cms.usa.net> >>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 >>> >>> From: Frank Mandato >>> > Unfortunately, I am not good enough to install Gentoo, tried it >>> > a few years ago and I never could get it to work right, not their >>> > fault, my not knowing enough about Linux was at fault. >>> >>> Things have improved a little bit. It should be "Read the Gentoo >>> Handbook, follow steps 1..100, done!" but manually creating >>> partitions and filesystems may faze people. But there's always >>> Ubuntu and kUbuntu. >>> >>> > I have installed this system and I am running it as an X86_64, >>> >>> OK, this actually shouldn't cause any problems with the things that >>> you reported. The evil nvidia module worked fine with x86_64 when >>> I was running that. >>> >>> > Driver "nv" >>> > I have re-installed 10.3 and that is why I do not have the >>> > downloaded Nvidia driver on it any longer. >>> >>> In general, reinstalling a distro won't fix anything. There are a >>> few exceptions, but I don't think the problems you described fall >>> into those categories. So: Get the binary module again and >>> install it, then modprobe nvidia, then edit xorg.conf, then >>> restart X and see if it all works. You may have to do the SuSE >>> equivalent of "eselect opengl set nvidia" so that you can get >>> accelerated 3D junk working. >>> >>> > 03:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy LS >>> > >>> > When I go in to Yast to configure that sound card, it says "legacy" >>> > so I thought that this is a legacy sound card. >>> >>> "Audigy LS" is not mentioned in the source for emu10k1 in a 2.6.24.1 >>> kernel. YaST has always had problems. What might work is this: >>> "modprobe snd_emu10k1", then start alsamixer (or amixer) and see if >>> you get anything other than "mixer not found, barfing." If you >>> get a mixer, you should just have to unmute everything. If not, >>> it's time to look in dmesg for problems. The worst-case scenario is >>> that the card isn't supported by whatever kernel they shipped, and >>> you'll have to upgrade to a more recent kernel. >>> >>> HTH anyway, >>> >>> -- >>> Matt G / Dances With Crows >>> The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.dyndns.org:8080/wordpress/ >>> There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see >>> >>> >>> > >>> > Thanks Matt. >>> > >>> > FrankM >>> > >>> > ---------------------------------------- >>> > > Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2008 11:09:08 -0700 >>> > > From: danceswithcrows@usa.net >>> > > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > > Subject: Re: Suse Linux 10.3 help requested >>> > > >>> > > From: Frank Mandato >>> > >> I have a couple of minor glitches with [Suse Linux 10.3] >>> > > >>> > > The quality of SuSE took a sharp nosedive around version 8.0, >>> > > so much so that I switched to Gentoo. AFAICT, there have >>> > > always been many, many stupid bugs in SuSE that are just not >>> > > there on Debian-based things or Gentoo. >>> > > >>> > >> Gigabyte G1 Turbo with on board sound and lan. It is a 64 >>> > >> bit system running on an X86 platform >>> > > >>> > > Are you running this thing as x86_64, or x86? This could be >>> > > important, and it's not clear from what you wrote. >>> > > >>> > >> NVidia GEForce6800GS video card. >>> > >> Problem No.1: I have no mouse pointer, yet the mouse works. >>> > >> I edited the xorg.conf file to turn off the HW [cursor] and >>> > >> then turn on the SW [cursor], no success. >>> > > >>> > > Install the evil binary-only module from nVidia and use it. >>> > > >>> > >> I can only get a 16 bit color palette, anything higher than >>> > >> that will not work. I downloaded the appropriate driver from >>> > >> Nvidia via yast at the command line >>> > > >>> > > Is X using the evil nVidia module? "grep Driver >>> > > /etc/X11/xorg.conf" should return one line with "nvidia" in >>> > > it. You also need to have the evil kernel module loaded. >>> > > "lsmod | grep nv" should return at least one line with >>> > > "nvidia" in it. >>> > > >>> > >> No sound. The legacy alsa driver does not produce any sound. >>> > >> I had always had trouble with alsa >>> > > >>> > > ALSA is "legacy"? Good grief. Post the output of "lspci | >>> > > grep -i audio" so we can see what sound chip you have. What's >>> > > worked for me is just running alsaconf as root from the command >>> > > line, but then I'm not using SuSE. Also, ALSA always starts >>> > > all sound cards up as muted. Most distros have a script that >>> > > runs at boot that pulls the volumes that were set at the last >>> > > shutdown and sets the card to those volumes. >>> > > >>> > > Also also, check the plugs. The last motherboard I bought, I >>> > > plugged the speakers into the wrong jack, and wasted half an >>> > > hour wondering what my ALSA setup had barfed on. >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > > Matt G / Dances With Crows >>> > > The Crow202 Blog: http://crow202.dyndns.org:8080/wordpress/ >>> > > There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to >>> > > see >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > --------------------------------------------------- >>> > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >>> > _________________________________________________________________ >>> > Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail?-get >>> your >>> "fix". >>> > http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx >>> > --------------------------------------------------- >>> > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: >>> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >>> >>> >>> End of PLUG-discuss Digest, Vol 33, Issue 1 >>> ******************************************* >>> >> >> -- >> Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com >> >> >> >> Michael F. 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