hope you caught this one:

  http://www.wired.com/politics/onlinerights/news/2008/02/privacy_board

  -jmz

On 2/5/08, keith smith <klsmith2020@yahoo.com> wrote:
> These actions and policies have not been tried in court.  We still have a
> 4th amendment.
>
> The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and
> effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated,
> and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or
> affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the
> persons or things to be seized.
>
>
> Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 4, 2008 7:44 PM, Craig White wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 19:12 -0700, JT Moree wrote:
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > Craig White wrote:
> > >
> > > > as for off-topic/on-topic inflammatory statements that tend to
> generate
> > > > long off topic discussions...
> > > >
> > > > KDE rules! GNOME sucks!
> > > I agree
> > >
> > > > Emacs rules! vi sucks!
> > > I prefer vi
> > >
> > > > Fedora rules! SuSE sucks!
> > > I prefer DEbian based distros but even the latest kubuntu is giving me
> fits.
> > >
> > >
> > > > You get my point - if you had merely laughed and let my comment pass,
> we
> > > > clearly would have had 5-10 less discussions on this topic.
> > >
> > > and you get my point? if you had not posted the flamebait then we would
> > > not be having this discussion. :/
> > ----
> > as I've already stated, that wasn't flamebait.
> >
> > This is flamebait...
> >
> > A president who proposes a record 3.1 trillion dollar budget for FY-2009
> > including $515 billion for the defense department, $70 billion dollars
> > for bridge spending in Iraq/Afghanistan (for only the 1st quarter of
> > 2009) yet knowing that Congress has yet to act upon it's current
> > 'emergency war funding request' of $110 billion while cutting Medicare
> > and Medicaid benefits in the same proposal.
>
> I think it was called 'The Omnibus Screw Middle Class Americans Bill'.
>
> Anyway, every single person on PLUG should be aware of the Telecom
> Immunity issue. We are all connected to this industry and capable of
> understanding this issue. It is extremely important that YOU, as an
> American understand what is happening to your rights to privacy. The
> level of privilege (economically and politically) that such powers of
> surveillance afford to small, and often unnamed parties is perhaps the
> greatest threat to American liberty in decades.
>
> -jmz
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