On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 12:03 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > On 1/17/08, Craig White wrote: > > On Wed, 2008-01-16 at 21:17 -0700, Joshua Zeidner wrote: > > > There is a great resource put out by Columbia University called 'Who > > > Owns What' which is an index of all major media publications and what > > > corps own them: > > > > > > http://www.cjr.org/resources/ > > ---- > > which of course is out of date - the first Corp I went looking for was > > Bain Capital now that they have purchased ClearChannel and absorbed them > > completely. This is Mitt Romney's company and he will control a large > > media chunk. > > > > The past few years of corporate acquisition gives the illusion of > > corporate growth and it's hard to keep up. > > Interesting... I guess I had no easy way of verifying the data. > They have since I last checked reformatted the page. thanks! > > an interesting story: > > "Media ownership study ordered destroyed" > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14836500/ > > Martin@FCC is in the hot seat right now. Although we may not agree > on everything, Craig, it's good to see that other people recognize > these problems. Martin should be tried for treason. Note the > language here: > > "The Federal Communications Commission ordered its staff to destroy > all copies of a draft study that suggested greater concentration of > media ownership would hurt local TV news coverage, a former lawyer at > the agency says." > > I didn't know the FCC was a person! We should be asking 'WHO' here, > not 'WHAT'. Its interesting that we no longer value reports on their > validity, instead we just burn them if they don't serve our lobbyists > interests. > > as for Theyrule.net , its a great site but not really for > professional analysis. One of the maps there that show the relations > between M$, Dell, and Intel really tells an interesting story. They > stay away from the typical lefty antics and just show the data, and I > really appreciate that. ---- being someone who is of bleeding heart liberal persuasion, I hesitated to respond because my own personal politics are of concern only where they might intersect in a meaningful way. Indeed, what has been happening under Martin's stewardship is nothing short of criminal and it just seems to fly under most radar - which is just another example of the corrupt main stream media. In reality though, television news and newspapers do not hold the same sway any longer and it's mostly people 45+ that are buying newspapers or watching national news channels (NBC, CBS, ABC). They have lost huge chunks of viewers and then the cable news networks have missed the opportunity to capitalize. The Ashleigh Banfield story http://www.alternet.org/story/15778 and Phil Donahue's story http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0303-06.htm tell you all you need to know when the supposedly 'liberal' cable news network fires it's most popular stars simply for political reasons. That these megalithic corporations such as Clear Channel (now Bain) or News Corp. or whichever are basically buying large numbers of media outlets ultimately will serve to kill competition, become the final nail in their empires because they serve their agenda's and in the end, people just aren't that stupid. Like the RIAA, the newspaper, magazine, broadcast networks are struggling to maintain empires that are failing and the very methods that they use to increase their power by expanding which will probably just hasten their decline. Just listen to the morons that are the talking heads on the political shows that got everything wrong in New Hampshire, are predicting that if so and so wins in South Carolina, it's all over, etc. These people, the MSM have completely lost all credibility. CNN might be the worst offender of all (Fox News simply doesn't count - any discussion of MSM credibility excludes Fox News out of principle). But honestly, that wasn't my intent of tossing the article out for everyone. I guess what worried me most about Microsoft embedding 'spy' mechanisms is part and parcel of things like the FISA legislation which obligates computer software manufacturers to embed spy software if deemed necessary for national security and I'm thinking that it might not be reasonably safe to sit in front of a computer any time soon...for a lot of reasons. Craig --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss