Same note. You can play many X-Box games on a windows machine, but you can not play most windows games on a counsel (unless you got a cool X-Box hack to load some acquired windows on it and make it a gamming machine) I have a 3GHz duel core with 3.5 GB ram. The video card has some memory onboard (64MB I think) and steals another 512MB from the system. It plays Dungeon Lords, Bio-Shock, and Overlord quite easily so you could probably step down from their. I am told from my WoW friends that 1GB of ram is the minimum but the sweet spot is around 2GB of ram. A 2GHz to 2.5GHz processor should be fine but you need a fairly beefy video card with at good VPU, at least some basic 3D acceleration, and I would say a minimum of 64MB on board ram, preferably 128MB. System barrowed memory is not that good. As for processors in general... A single 3GHz Duel core processor will perform ~60% better then a single core 3GHz processor for most applications written to efficiently utilize duel cores. This is similar to the multiple physical processors, but you actually get much better performance out of multiple cores. However there are diminishing returns. A quad core will do about 40% better then a duel core and an 8 core machine will do about 30% better then a quad core machine. When given the choice I would rather get a duel core with a 1333MHz FSB then a quad core with an 800MHz FSB any day. As for would you need it; for me, it is nice just because I run many applications at the same time. Some one with a CSE degree can probably tell how threaded it needs to be before you see performance increases but I am not that smart of the top of my head. The big point is that a duel core 2.4GHz processor is cheaper to produce then a single core 3.8GHz, processor and thus is cheaper to sell, but you get very similar performance. -----Original Message----- From: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Matt Graham Sent: Friday, January 04, 2008 4:31 PM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: Off-Topic: Looking for Hardware Recommendations After a long battle with technology, gm5729 wrote: > Honestly the best choice is to get a gaming platform/console and use > it.... cheaper and designed for games I see you missed the OP's saying "one of my daughters likes to play WoW". You can't play WoW on a WiiXboxPS2 according to Blizzard, so that won't work for the OP's needs. Higher-end gaming was never my thing. xmame, snes9x, epsxe, sdl-gnuboy, and fceu = plenty to keep me amused. If the games that everybody likes will run OK on an older box with 2200MHz/512M/40G/reasonable graphics card (like the OP said), then it's reasonable to spend $350 on that. The graphics card spec really depends on the exact games the users want. To avoid hassles later, it might be worth getting a card that's a little more powerful than you need right now, since game updates may mean the GPU has to work harder. Remotely managing a 'Doze machine from a Linux machine can be done reasonably easily. Turn on whatever 'Doze uses for desktop sharing, then use rdesktop from the Linux side. Or install TightVNC Server on the 'Doze machine and use any VNC client from the Linux machine. Remotely managing a Linux box from a 'Doze box is easy; just use PuTTY or a VNC client. HTH, -- I think I'll go hold my head under a bucket of vodka until I feel better. --localroger on kuro5hin.org, 06/26/2003 There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss