On Tue, 2008-01-01 at 22:12 -0700, Chris Gehlker wrote: > On Jan 1, 2008, at 8:47 PM, Craig White wrote: > > > The stipulation regarding Kazaa by the defendant states that the > > defendant was interested solely in exchange of pornography. It's clear > > that Kazaa had other uses besides illegally sharing music files. > > I can't find any evidence for this on the > site which claims to have a complete archive of the public > documents in Atlantic V. Howell. Please provide a link. ---- http://www.ilrweb.com/viewILRPDF.asp?filename=atlantic_howell_071207RIAASupplementalBrief see page 18 ---- > > Note that the court found that Howell had a "right to use for personal > enjoyment copyrighted works on CDs he purchased": > > > > Note that the court found "Howell’s final contention is that a > computer malfunction or a third party put his personal files into his > shared folder. However, no evidence has been presented in support of > that scenario." It seems clear that Howell couldn't present any > evidence that the files got in his Kazaa shared folder other than by > his putting them there and the court clearly didn't believe his > 'malfunction or third party' contention. > > As far as I can tell, the documents are all there for anybody to > review and this is a very pedestrian case of a guy who used Kazaa and > got caught. ---- here is one of the really big problems...the burden of proof is a bar that is set way too low. see...http://www.azoz.com/topics/lawsuits/JammieThomas.html (arizona link, don't know the guy) If you read the right hand column, he summarizes the issues from Capitol v. Thomas really well... **** The jury instructions indicate that the judge pre-decided that: * Downloading is copyright infringement; * Making files available through peer-to-peer is copyright infringement, even if no one downloads them. The RIAA did not have to prove: * That Thomas downloaded anything; * That she had a copy of Kazaa; * That she was the actual person sharing the files in question. * That she was aware of alleged sharing of files on her computer. I'm not even sure how they got past the copyright ownership issue. **** If you can't see the problems here, I am not going to convince you of anything. Yes, it's clear that you and I are aware of the assumption of guilt merely by installing Kazaa and there isn't a chance that I would ever install something like that on any computer that I own or use. Craig --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss