On Dec 31, 2007 6:04 PM, Erich Newell wrote: > I read about similar problems with the stability of Cinelerra in the > KDEnlive article I mentioned....Sorry to hear they haven't worked them > out yet. I don't know what the process is for importing in KDEnlive, > but for Kino you simply open the files...since they are not DV format, > it will ask if you would like to import them. They will each appear as > segments in DV format within the application. Just as a warning > tho...DV is about 10 times larger than mpeg. Not sure on the actual > numbers, but its a major difference. If Kino is unable to import them, > then you're probably down to transcode to get them to a workable > format. > > You can find the appropriate flags to feed transcode simply be getting > the information from VLC. Play the file and while its running go to: > "View" -> "Stream and Media Info" -> "Advanced Information". That > should tell you everything you need to know. You may also find this > under the file "properties" in your file browser depending on your > desktop/distro of choice. I know under Nautilus I can see the same > info by right clicking on the file and selecting "properties". > > > > > On Dec 31, 2007 2:55 PM, Vaughn Treude wrote: > > Erich, > > I hate to bug you again, but I'm severely frustrated. I've tried about > > 8 different encoder programs. Most work to some degree. I've decided > > that Cinelerra (the version I have) is still is piece of garbage that > > works sporadically if at all. I haven't yet figured out how to get > > Cinelerra-CV on the old (2005) distro I'm using, and I don't have time > > to attempt an upgrade at the moment. And I'm puzzled by KDEnlive, which > > seems to want yet another format. So I still have hope for Kino. But I > > don't know how to produce a proper DV file. Can DV files be in > > different container formats, such as MOV and AVI? If so, I can't figure > > out which coded to use. Wikipedia says DV uses DCT encoding, but the > > names of codecs seem to bear little if any resemblance to the names of > > the format? If you know what codecs (audio and video) I should use, I'd > > be eternally grateful. If not, I'll quit bugging you. Thanks again! > > Vaughn > > > > Erich Newell wrote: > > > No I'm sorry to say the only tutorial I have for transcode is the man > > > page...but there are several front-ends that make the job easier. A > > > quick "apt-cache search transcode" reveals half a dozen or so under > > > Ubuntu. I'm certain there are just as many for your distro of choice. > > > > > > On another note, I was reading the October issue of LJ (yes, I'm > > > behind) which has an article on KDENLIVE...which is an another > > > Non-Linear Editor for video. You might want to check it out (no > > > personal experience). > > > > > > > > > On Dec 31, 2007 10:48 AM, Vaughn Treude wrote: > > >> Erich Newell wrote: > > >>> I've used Kino on several occasions for exactly this purpose. It only > > >>> works with DV format, but can import most anything that I'm aware of. > > >>> (As long as you have the appropriate codecs loaded) > > >>> > > >>> If you have very unusual format needs for input / output, you could > > >>> use transcode or vlc beore / after as well. > > >>> > > >> Erich, > > >> Thanks for your help. I've installed Kino, but it does not like my MOV > > >> files. (Error: "Failed to Load Media File.") Perhaps there is a > > >> problem with the MOV files. I produced them with a script I found online > > >> that calls VLC with mysterious parameters to make it do the conversions. > > >> I suppose I will try getting transcode or some other tool to do it. > > >> Can you point me to a good tutorial? > > >> Vaughn > > >> > > >> > > >>> Cheers. > > >>> > > >>> On Dec 30, 2007 8:12 AM, Vaughn Treude wrote: > > >>>> Erich Newell wrote: > > >>>>> I was under the impression you wanted to do some *editing*. I use VLC > > >>>>> for streaming all the time for on-the-fly video conversion and > > >>>>> streaming. Let me know the specifics and I'm sure I can nudge you in > > >>>>> the right direction. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Just in case you want to stream HD content: you'll need to build > > >>>>> ffmpeg and vlc from cvs...otherwise, its a simple matter of selecting > > >>>>> a few flags. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> - Erich > > >>>>> > > >>>> Erich, > > >>>> Well yes, some very simple editing. I have two video capture files. I > > >>>> need to trim a few seconds of the beginning and and of each file, and > > >>>> then concatenate them together. > > >>>> Hi Vaughn - you're going to hate me... 1) rename copies of the files you want to work with into the alphabetic sequence you want. 2) burn & boot the elive CD - launch Cinelerra, cut and past the kernel fix from the error box and relaunch Cinelerra.* 3) add the files to your project resources - one of the defaults is to import a bunch of files and concatenates them into one big video/audio project. 4) learn to navigate Cinelerra - working in the top row of the lower left box**, place intron and outrons (not the real names) about the bit you want to cut - hit delete button. If the next one isn't adjacent, make sure you toggle off the inton/outron things. repeat until you ... stuff you do in the main timeline will affect the video & audio streams beneath it. 5) render the new piece with the same format as the resources - it is an option and might just work. 6) log out & reboot into normal space - find fixed video. 7) Cinelerra often notes that Kino is good for capture/pre/post maipulation. DIV is like default video format and pay attention to video/audio sync - the way it is in edit isn't always how render finishes your work. don't panic - render. *ps Elive doesn't like you playing around as root - and there was something about getting root.. try elive as the passwd. I think you could finish your project after reading maybe 3 sections of the Cinelerra CV documentation **the bottom row of this box is also your friend ;) think interpolation --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss