permit my ignorance and arrogance...why on earth would anyone want to go through this? Craig On Tue, 2007-11-20 at 21:11 -0700, JD Austin wrote: > Check out http://atomicrocketturtle.com Scott has a great RPM > repository; I'm not sure if it goes that old though; likely not help you > currently. > Plesk backup is a big pile of $... They got me with a BIG gotcha when my > hard drive crashed and they reimaged the server on a new drive.. backups > aren't compatible between versions. I do an rsync mirror of my machine > every day. The first time takes quite a while but the changes are done > in a few hours. > > fouldragon@aol.com wrote: > > Am I the only one who finds Plesk an utter and complete nightmare? > > They seem to ship it with bugs that projects that never escaped "1-Pre > > Alpha" on Freshmeat would be ashamed to! > > > > > Plesk is ok until you have to upgrade.. then you're stuck in rpm > dependency hell and end up doing > rpm -Uvh --force --nodeps XXXX.rpm > to get past 3 way dependencies that you can't fix.. in the end you're > stuck in a worse mess . > > > I administer a reasonably servicable Fedora 4-based server with about > > sixty domains (many of which are just redirect hosting or abandoned > > clients) > > > > Plesk EOL'd FC4 BTW. > > It ran Plesk 8.0.0. > > > > I decided it would be good for security reasons to update to the most > > recent PHP and MySQL. > > > I did that awhile ago using atomicrocketturtle.com's yum repository. > Now they are on 8.2. > If anyone can get you from where you are to where you need to be it's > Scott and his repository. > > Plesk 8.0 doesn't like MySQL 5 series. > > > > So I have to upgrade that to 8.1.1. > > > > Fine. After two days of fighting, normality returns. > > > > > Been there :( > > I've got the system set up to back itself up to an external FTP once a > > week. It did this with the 'pleskbackup all' command. This resulted > > in the generation of a ~15-20Gb file. > > > > > Their backup files are very weird. > Fortunately with 8.0 you can tar and gz to get all your files back. > It takes several passes.. I don't even want to mess with 8.1's backup > since it's totally different. > > I don't have 20Gb of space anymore. And apparently, you can't just > > 'pleskbackup all' to a FTP site with that version, despite the claims > > it was supposed to be fixed in 8.1. > > > > > Yeah.. they don't fix much or support much. There's more support from > their user forum than them. > > For obvious reasons, I have no particular lust to update to 8.2, and > > open yet another Pandora's box (it feels like Pandora meets Deal or No > > Deal) > > > > > Yes it does. > > So fine... I'll write a little shell script to do backups of single > > domains, FTP them over, and delete them. No single domain should be > > over 6Gb. Seems simple. (I try to use pleskbackup domains command). > > > > > I wouldn't even use their backup > > So I test it out on a small domain. pleskbackup runs fine, but when I > > do 'pleskrestore --create-map' using the resultant file, it dumps a > > stack of errors: > > > > Traceback (most recent call last): > > File "/usr/local/psa/admin/share/supervisor/processor.py", line 83, in > > getStatus > > return (None, self.realGetStatus()) > > File "/usr/local/psa/admin/share/supervisor/processor.py", line 413, in > > realGetStatus > > info = dump_format.readInfo(fh) > > File "/usr/local/psa/admin/lib/python/dump_format.py", line 399, in > > readInfo > > xml.sax.parse(fp, i) > > File "/usr/lib/python2.4/xml/sax/__init__.py", line 33, in parse > > parser.parse(source) > > File "/usr/lib/python2.4/xml/sax/expatreader.py", line 107, in parse > > xmlreader.IncrementalParser.parse(self, source) > > File "/usr/lib/python2.4/xml/sax/xmlreader.py", line 123, in parse > > self.feed(buffer) > > File "/usr/lib/python2.4/xml/sax/expatreader.py", line 211, in feed > > self._err_handler.fatalError(exc) > > File "/usr/lib/python2.4/xml/sax/handler.py", line 38, in fatalError > > raise exception > > SAXParseException: /var/backups/restore/dump-plesk.xml:11:33: not > > well-formed (invalid token) > > > > even 'pleskrestore --info' (tell me why the backup is busted) fails > > similarly (dump-plesk.xml at the end is replaced with I > > think.) > > > > Pleskbackup reports no obvious errors, so I can't tell if it's > > pleskbackup making a borked file, or pleskrestore failing to parse a > > valid one. > > > > Of course, googling the errors gets me nowhere except a lot of other > > people complaining that Pleskbackup/Pleskrestore doesn't work well for > > them in many different ways. > > > > You'd think backup and restore are inherently things you test the crap > > out of prior to releasing a package like this. > > > > Has anyone got any thoughts as to what might be wrong? > > > > Alternatively, how else would you solve the problem: > > > > 1. I need to backup as completely as possible a Plesk-orchestrated > > server with 20-25Gb of data on it. This includes email and databases, > > but I can forego logs. I'd prefer to be able to suck back the Plesk > > configuration rather than have to reassemble it from scratch when > > rebuilt. > > > If you can use rsync I would.. thats what I do. > > 2. I have access to storage space via FTP only, and a total of 30G of > > space there. > > > It's possible. There are perl modules that make ftping files pretty easy. > > 3. I need a minimal (<10Gb at any one moment) disc-space footprint on > > the running server. > > > Depends on what you're backing up. > > 4. It should be reasonably simple to reconstitute in the event of > > calamity. > > > Theres the problem.. even with plesk backup GOOD LUCK. > mysqldump, tar and gzip are your friend. > I'm not sure how you'd back up mail /var/qmail/* and have it usable on > another non-plesk system. > > 5. Ideally, it would not drive the load average to 87. > > > > > A lot of I/O will drive up your load. > > Any thoughts? Most of the answers I see involve "use pleskbackup all > > and FTP it over in some way", which fails because of part 3. > > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Email and AIM finally together. 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