thanks to everyone for their help, as usual, great list members !!!! my 'office' is the office for my LLC which is just a small business. i live out where there is ONLY dial-up, no dsl, no cable, so0000 no choice there. i only use that computer for banking and private emails related to the business, so no big bandwidth issues. anyway, somehow it started working. i should really write down the steps that i take when i do stuff to the computer. i just tinker until something works :~} now i have the gimp 2.2, evolution sync with my treo 650 AND the internet (the big 3 necessities), so i am really happy. if this system works for 6 months without major problems, then i will migrate my 'regular' computer in my house to ubuntu too. and maybe the one at my cabin as well :))) i like RH but it's just too old. -- betty i. www.WebCanine.com research & information for people who care for dogs --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss