("semi" top posted since that seems to be
  how this thread is going "so far")

> the flash is written to several million times in a year, [...]
> quality of the flash seems to be much better than it was.

> [...] a firewall using a hard drive [...] already has filesystem errors.
> No CF box I built has failed yet.

Well, in a way that may sound paradoxical;
on the other hand,
CF doesn't have any moving parts, and hard drives do...
Hmmm...
-- 
Mike Schwartz
Glendale  AZ
schwartz@acm.org

On 9/19/07, Jorge Delacruz <alterthegrid@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The cheap consumer stuff at Fry's now comes with a
> lifetime warranty.
>
> Also, I use the cheap limited warranty compactflash in
> my firewalls and they are still in service, almost 2
> years later.  I think we can assume the flash is
> written to several million times in a year, so the
> quality of the flash seems to be much better than it
> was.
>
> Funny thing - I built a firewall using a hard drive a
> year ago, and it already has filesystem errors.  No CF
> box I built has failed yet.
>
> JD
>
>
> Alan Dayley wrote:
> > keith smith wrote:
> >
> >>I wonder how the flash-based data storage will last.
>  It is my
> >>understanding flash-based data storage has a finite
> life span and wonder
> >>what that really means.
> >>
> >>Is it good for a year, two years, five years?  Can I
> add a hard drive?
> >>
> >>It is an exceptional value and at $199 it is almost
> worth getting just
> >>to mess with.
> >
> >
> > See my comments from more than a year ago:
> >
> >
> http://lists.plug.phoenix.az.us/lurker/message/20060504.231037.e6c110af.en.html
> >
> > Much of what I said then still holds true.  However,
> flash memory and
> > flash controller technologies continue to improve
> and progress at a
> > rapid rate.  I think even a consumer grade flash
> device should last more
> > than a year these days, unless it is the cheap,
> no-name stuff.
> >
> > I would hope that Asus is using higher grade stuff
> in this little
> > computer since it is the sole boot and data storage
> media.  There are
> > also tweaks that can be made to the kernel and
> system logging and other
> > things to drastically minimize the number and
> frequency of small writes
> > to the media.  They could also be using a file
> system that is tailored
> > to flash media.  Combining all of these factors, the
> > flash media could last many years.
> >
> > I'd like to see a tear-down article with pictures
> for one of these
> > little computers.  That would be fun.
> >
> > Alan
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