On Fri, 2007-08-31 at 14:03 -0700, der.hans wrote: > Am 31. Aug, 2007 schwtzte Craig White so: > > moin moin Criag, > > > On Fri, 2007-08-31 at 11:00 -0700, Josh Coffman wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> Does anyone know if there is a way to make compiz or beryl work > >> with fast user switching. (using fedora 7 if that matters). 3d desktop > >> isn't a big deal to me but its a nice way to impress people with > >> linux.. plus one of the launcher panels I like needs a composite > >> window manager to work. > > ---- > > I always thought that the impressive thing to demonstrate was stability, > > text based configuration files, automated installations/updates and of > > course free software. > > Depends on who you're target audience is. Text-based config files are > great for sysadmins, especially those automating infrastructures, but it > means nothing to most anyone who isn't a sysadmin. > > > Eye candy things like compiz/beryl are hardly stable and are impressive > > Well, they should be stable. > > > only for people that know little about computers. Thus a compiz/beryl > > demonstration is perfect for pointy haired bosses but few else. > > Actually, it's helping me with some of my customers at work. They're all > intelligent and geeks in their own right, but not in computer science or > sysadmin. They would greatly benefit from some specialized Free Software > tools that are easier to run on GNU/Linux than other platforms. > > I've got one guy somewhat interested in investigating the other > tools. Showing him the cool eye candy and that GNU/Linux can do all the > other things he wants from his desktop is also important in encouraging > his interest. > > I've got most of my customers using some Free Software, but they're > not computer geeks and are afraid of changing platforms. The cool > eye-candy helps. Apple has proven time and again that a user interface > that's deemed to be cool helps lead to adoption. Why shouldn't we also > seek that? Especially since it doesn't interfere with improvements in > GNU/Linux-based server infrastructures. Some people want to improve > eye-candy, some want to improve LAMP. We get to benefit from improvements > to both :). > > Besides, having windows fold up in to electronic paper airplanes and fly > off is cool, even if it's not useful :). ---- for the most part - Apple is the anti-Microsoft and it wouldn't matter what it is except that it isn't Microsoft. Apple ceased to be an inventive desktop a long time ago - witness the adherence to a single button mouse for oh so many years. The issue is about free software and running free software on a non-free OS seems to be counterproductive - i.e. DRM enabled content doesn't run on Vista OS and no amount of OpenOffice.org or Mozilla stuff is gonna change that. -- Craig White --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss