I don't mind tools editing the standard conf files. I do mind some craptastic distro burying the setting in an obscure directory and then making it hard to script (or hand edit) a change. On Aug 10, 2007, at 7:58 AM, Dan Lund wrote: > This argument has gone on since the beginning of Red Hat being the > "Windows" of Linux. Thankfully Red Hat has done a bit of shifting in > their strategy and become less like that. > It smacks of remnants of that argument, just completely backwards... > back then it was people saying that it's better to edit the files > directly versus using a tool. Now we have someone saying that there's > not enough tools? > lol > > > On 8/9/07, Craig White wrote: >> On Wed, 2007-08-08 at 16:03 -0700, Kurt Granroth wrote: >>> Craig White wrote: >>>> Shame on you Kurt for thinking that Red Hat should pander to >>>> your SuSE >>>> driven expectations. >>> >>> Yes, shame on me for expecting that Red Hat behave like an OS >>> worthy of >>> being the class leader. >> ---- >> somewhat argumentative considering that you are not using an >> installer >> but rather an image created by others. The reality is, changing >> hostname, etc. is a rather simple process for those who know Red Hat >> topology and for those who are reduced to Linux server management via >> Yast, it's going to be painful. From your perspective, I can see >> where >> you're coming from. From a Red Hat perspective, you bring a limited >> skill set that they are unlikely to satisfy regardless of their >> efforts. >> Installing X and the various system-config-*utils* or Webmin are the >> most reasonable options. > -- > "Courage is like love; it must have hope to nourish it." > -Napoleon Bonaparte > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > !DSPAM:14,46bc7d3738429971910183! > > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss