moin moin, the important O'Reilly, not the talking head :). In the 'dead LUGs' thread I broached the importance of freedom as being one of the things I think we're losing. O'Reilly has certainly done a lot for tech over the years and lots for Free Software as well. http://www.linux.com/feature/118201 Does O'Reilly think everything will move to centralized servers with companies adding doodads on top? He doesn't see those doodads moving to services run by individuals? He doesn't see the US finally catching up with other tech countries and having good bandwidth at home where we can serve up our own data? His internet pipes vision is great, where everyone gets to slice and dice data feeds as we see fit, but wouldn't we want to run that on our own machines? ciao, der.hans -- # https://www.LuftHans.com/ http://www.CiscoLearning.org/ # "The babys blood type? Human, mostly." -- Orson Scott Card --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss