C++, eh? When I first studied C (not ++, and pre-ANSI days), I got a book from a Walden bookstore on the far west side of town -- and I live in northeast Phoenix -- because it was the only bookstore in town I could find *any* book on C -- and it was not K&R -- in its collection of 20 or so computer related titles on the store shelves. I "learned" C in the evenings sitting at my desk with a ruler and pen to underline with (they didn't have transparent markers yet), making marginal notes. I did not have a compiler. In fact, I did not yet have a computer. (I bought a Commodore 64 not long afterward.) It was not until I worked for Motorola (actually Four Phase Systems, which was owned by Motorola) in 1982 that I had a chance even to write a Hello World C program. By that time I had written a bunch of stuff in BASIC, including the porting of a commercial application program for the IBM PC to the TRS-80 (who remembers those?), and had even managed to write and compile at least one COBOL program, which also ran on the TRS-80. (Not my machine.) C++ has been around a long time, but was rarely even mentioned when I worked at Motorola, other than to argue its merits. (Most people of experience believed it produced bloated code inappropriate to the system programming we did there.) Years later, when I worked a short time at MontaVista, in an office full of Linux kernel developers I don't believe I ever heard the words "object oriented" uttered, except on a couple of occasions: (1) Object oriented Perl: YUK!!! That ended that discussion forthrightly. (2) Various comments by people who knew and loved Python, which included most of the people who worked in the test organization I was a part of. Reminisce onward ... > on my first class in C++. I remember the funny "They drop my punch cards > stories". Good times :) -- Lynn --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss