BTW, I took my first programming class in 1966, three years before Unix was invented. I learned a programming language called SCATR for an IBM mainframe (the 360? or maybe that came later), which was pretty close to assembly language, and had to enter my programs on IBM punch cards which I would hand to a technician and hope he didn't drop them. Then I'd come back in 6 or 8 hours (sometimes at 2:00am) to pick up the output of my program -- which more often than not would say SYNTAX ERROR. Didn't take much of that for me to lose my taste for it. The course I took was called "Computer Programming for Musicians". The University of Illinois was then the world's leading center for research in electronic and computer assisted music composition, and I was a music composition major. But I'm sure there are a number of subscribers to this list who can one-up me with "I remember when" stories, by margins of several years at least. I realize the original subject talks about "modern" operating systems, but I couldn't resist the urge to reminisce. -- Lynn --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change your mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss