I consider an outage any interruption in service lasting more then 45 seconds. For business purposes I consider any provider who has less then a 99.9976% uptime to be "unreliable" That said Cox has been really good for my home use, but I use wholesale Qwest T1's with TWTC service for my office. Cox is what I would consider good burstable bandwidth at a cheep price, but it is not quality and it is not business grade reliable. Though I wish they would provide to my office so I could pick up a cheep secondary connection for high burst items (massive uploads/downloads, online backups and restores, or even normal web traffic when my T1's become saturated with high priority traffic). These are personal opinions. -----Original Message----- From: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of KevinO Sent: Wednesday, June 20, 2007 8:58 AM To: Main PLUG discussion list Subject: Re: Cox is a POS -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Wayne Davis wrote: > I've had Cox Broadband for about 4 years and it has been VERY reliable. > How do you know? What do you consider reliable? I have a busine$$ account with multiple static IPs, check status each minute, and record changes of status. I do this because of my past experiences with Cox, and because a lot of people depend on my connectivity. ( Data is here: http://www.kevino.org/cox_status.txt ) I am conservative in what I call an outage - testing for 3 consecutive failures of ICMP packets to make it back from the gateway IP, after waiting 2 S per packet. I don't consider the status back up again unless all three consecutive packets make the trip, to help eliminate noise in the data due to marginal cases. I normally can flood ping the gateway IP with zero packet loss and 8 mS avg ping time. There was a period from Oct 2006 until Mar 2007 without any logged loss of service. I would say that when their network works right, it works well. I've been on the phone several times with Cox in the last 24 hours, and have been informed of 4 separate 'equipment failure' events during this time, each of which covered large areas, not just my street or local area. BTW: I made a point to call during a period of uptime early this morning and had the modem tested by Cox, and it is working nominally. The modem and all data equipment here runs on filtered UPS power too. Hence, I have come to a second conclusion: These equipment failures are not random failures. Large ISPs such as Cox and Qwest do not really care about their customers - they don't have to. One of my favorite pastimes is to call Cox during normal business hours and sit in the on-hold loop waiting for tech. support, where every 10 seconds a voice comes on "...[thanking me] for my patience..."! I've logged 15 events just since 3am this morning.... Cheers, - -- KevinO -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGeU6OI3MJ/OwKti0RAvAfAKCAd2wn/+vb6b6lkDz6XlixAXD4CwCeMcdm b8XDA8KYsoYqgU/3Qb/8jhQ= =Wyoq -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss