If I intend to have the drive move to a different use I will use boot
and nuke with a few passes of one method or another, reformat and load
the new OS.

If I intend to let the disk out of my supervision (sale/salvage) and
remain intact (for reuse), then I use boot and nuke also, usually a few
passes of one type and a few of another and then I reformat as something
wacky fs like NXT, or what ever I can get my hands on at the time.

If I intend for the drive to thrown away then I will do the same thing
and then take out the platters and give a platter to all the people who
really like shinny things ;)

I have this luxury because I usually don't have more then a few drives
at a time and I usually have a computer that goes with them, and I
usually don't have a dead line of less then a few hours to having it
wiped securely (a dozen passes of some boot and nuke methods can take
all night to finish).

-----Original Message-----
From: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us
[mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of Jon
M. Hanson
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:55 AM
To: Main PLUG discussion list
Subject: Re: delete == delete

> * Quoth Jon M. Hanson (jon@the-hansons-az.net), on Wed, 2007.05.16, at
> 07:47 -0700:
>> der.hans wrote:
>>
>>  From a higher level there are the utilities shread and srm that you
may
>> already have installed. These work at a filesystem level.
>
> Don't these utilities not play nice with journalled filesystems?

It's not that they don't play nice with journalled filesystems.
Journalled
filesystems will have a window where the data that you tried to destroy
will still be recoverable through the filesystem's journal under a
certain
window of time but I don't think that window is very long. They put
those
warnings about journalled filesystem in the man pages for those
utilities
for the paranoid but it is good information to know.

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