We're using Avast on two machines, and it seems to be pretty good. It updates frequently. We (myself, wife, several kids) are very conservative users and have never been hit by a virus in 20 years of heavy computing, in spite of being without anti-virus software most of that time. So I'm no expert on viruses. But my wife did have an email intercepted by Avast that had a risky-looking attachment. Core Force looks intriguing, thanks Josef. I intend to try it as my security suite when I install XP in a virtual machine under Linux in the near future. I note the web site specifies Win2k and XP but doesn't mention Vista. My wife's new laptop runs Vista, and I will probably install Avast when our free Norton coverage wears out. I had two bad experiences in past years with AVG. Once it seemed to simply lock up the machine, and removing AVG cleared up the problem. I went with no virus protection for some time after that, then tried AVG again. This time it seemed OK for a while, but then suddenly it started declaring all applications to be infested! I was able to fight my way down to the control panel and uninstall it, and all was well. This was two or three years ago. If I were to decide to pay for virus coverage, I think I'd go with F-Secure out of appreciation for their sounding the alarm on the Sony CD trojan while the other "establishment" anti-virus outfits were ignoring it. About two years ago I got a free PC-Cillin subscription when I bought a new motherboard; it updated frequently and did claim to catch one virus. After some months the free subscription ran out, and I went directly to Avast. Vic --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss