-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Lynn Newton wrote: > I meant to add to my previous question ... > > I recall hearing something about a deal Novell made with Microsoft > a few months ago, which made me raise an eyebrow. I was way too > busy to follow it. > > Would someone summarize for me, again in a couple of sentences, > what that was all about, and is Novell's name now a dirty word > in the open source community? > > I despise most everything about Microsoft and its products, but > I'm not religious about it, i.e., I'm not an open source > purist, nor would I boycott some company's products just because > hey had dealings with Microsoft. I just want to know what's > going on. If anything. > My nutshell understanding: - - Mostly non-inflaming part of agreement: - -- Novell and MS agreed to work together on interoperability between each other's products. Fine. Whatever. (With regard to Linux/FS/OSS MS could do all this work already anyway since the source is Free and open but they haven't.) - - Inflaming part of agreement: - - Novell owns some software patents and MS owns some software patents. - - Novell and MS exchanged money based on: - -- Novell promised not to sue MS *customers* for infringement of Novell's patents - -- MS promised not to sue Novell *customers* for infringement of MS's patents. - -- MS promised not to sue FS/OSS "hobbiests" for infringement as long as they don't share the source they create. Novell and MS could not do a patent royalty agreement or promise not to sue each other directly because that would violate section 7 of GPLv2 (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.txt). But, by paying each other money to not sue each other's customers. they get especially the same result and get around the GPL requirement. Now, MS claims Linux/FS/OSS violates their "intellectual property" and gets to point at the agreement as "proof" that such violations exist. A big gun in the FUD battle they constantly wage against Linux/FS/OSS. Novell gets a few hundred million dollars to keep in operation. And they are already claiming protection from being sued as a selling point for their Linux based products. Novell asked for The above agreements not to sue only apply to paying customers of Novell products. Therefore, purchasing a Novell product is tacit approval of the above actions. If you use SUSE, use OpenSUSE and don't pay for it. Some references: - - Bruce Parens' press conference at Novell's Brain Share 2007 http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20070320130321622 - - Groklaw's library on the entire deal: http://www.groklaw.net/staticpages/index.php?page=20061218045851480 - - Jeremy Allison resigns from Novell to protest deal (He has a very nice summary of the feelings about the deal): http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20061221081000710 All corrections to my understanding of the issue are welcome. Alan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGGrRKDQw/VSQuFZYRAqUVAJ9P1EE0jg9NuY+hkjEcrFohitXTMwCeNTwB qmSRqJYo2hkELLuNEKvde8g= =cm5g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss