I am new to the list but also live out on the west side. West side meaning Buckeye not central Phx ;) Estrella Community college has a LUG but it is for students only. They seem to feature only Red Hat too. I use Debian as I hate RPM based packaging -- can we say dependency hell . . . LOL. Gregory On 3/30/07, plug-discuss-request@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us wrote: > Send PLUG-discuss mailing list submissions to > plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > plug-discuss-request@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > You can reach the person managing the list at > plug-discuss-owner@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of PLUG-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Shared contacts? (Joshua Zeidner) > 2. Backups - Offsite solutions -Security Regulations (Bryan O'Neal) > 3. Re: Backups - Offsite solutions -Security Regulations > (Joshua Zeidner) > 4. Re: Shared contacts? (Joseph Sinclair) > 5. RE: Locations was Re: Why we are all here (was Re: audio cd) > (Bryan O'Neal) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:37:38 -0700 > From: "Joshua Zeidner" > Subject: Re: Shared contacts? > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > > Message-ID: > <9e8718c60703302137l11595347y16d404a79585577f@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Bill, > > Take a look at Zimbra. > > -jmz > > On 3/30/07, Bill Lindley wrote: > > > > I am still in need, for several of my customers, of a way for an office > > of people to be able to share a contact list. Everyone needs to be able > > to update contacts. Most everyone is on Windows but I have set up > > several Linux machines. > > > > How can I do this with Thunderbird, or Eudora, or any other open source > > (or even closed-source) program? > > > > I've looked into LDAP but it seems horribly complex, and Thunderbird > > won't write to LDAP databases (**boggle**). > > > > Help! > > > > \\/ > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > -- > .0000. communication. > .0001. development. > .0010. strategy. > .0100. appeal. > > JOSHUA M. ZEIDNER > IT Consultant > > ( 602 ) 490 8006 > jjzeidner@gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/pipermail/plug-discuss/attachments/20070330/2847fbd2/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:27:13 -0700 > From: "Bryan O'Neal" > Subject: Backups - Offsite solutions -Security Regulations > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > > Message-ID: > <718E547AE93F08469653AC2CB76D0028F983C4@Server2003.Cornerstonehome.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I have a financial broker that needs offsite backups, but as a financial > institution they have more sensitive information then I am used to > dealing with out side the confines of the government and I am not sure > what needs to be done (legal speaking) to protect the data. I would > like to slap some cheep server in a cheep colo with an encrypted drive > and just pump automated backups over an ssh tunnel using rsync (Like I > do for my companies backups) but I do not know if there are any specific > security (Physical and encryption) rules that I need to meet. Rite now > my companies back up server rotates through the homes of the key > players, but I don't think that is a good idea for a machine that holds > non-public information. > > > > I know there are a few of you who work (or worked) for other, larger, > financial institutions. How did you handle offsite backups? > > > > It's late and been a long day so if this message does not make sense let > me know ;) > > > > Bryan O'Neal > Cornerstone Homes & Development, Inc. > 4220 E. McDowell Rd Ste. #108 > Mesa, AZ 85215 > (480) 505-1900 > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/pipermail/plug-discuss/attachments/20070330/16db8641/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:57:10 -0700 > From: "Joshua Zeidner" > Subject: Re: Backups - Offsite solutions -Security Regulations > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > > Message-ID: > <9e8718c60703302357k533c398dgd7fb3d4d29249227@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Bryan, > > There are companies that specialize in the service. I don't have any > particular references for you, but if you are dealing with financial data, > there are some legal considerations with regard to privacy. If your clients > security is breached you've got some major legal problems( whose problem it > is depends entirely on whatever agreements you have made ). Secondly, if > you use a brand name, you can highlight your service provider as part of > their overall quality( unless you specialize in this service yourself, which > presumably you do not ). > > An important aspect to this area is that the real liabilities of > financial( and medical ) data storage( most importantly: credit cards ) has > been _drastically de-emphasized_ in recent years. This is, in my > estimation, due entirely to the expansion of overseas service provider > market. Managing these liabilities gets *very expensive* for operations > outside of the US[1], and major industry groups want to eliminate the > liabilities of the class of actors who rightly should be responsible. > > NASSCOM did make an ostensible effort to tighten data security in > India[2]. My interpretation of this is that it is primarily a PR move, and > that there is no way that India is taking the costly precautions necessary > in an already tight and possibly languishing services market, for doing so > would require a combination of both internal corporate security and national > legislation. My prediction is that as soon as litigation in this sector is > seen as profitable by the general law community, things will get far more > expensive for everyone involved. > > This is just the first company that came up on google ads: > http://www.rsync.net/index.html > > Good luck in your project. > > Sincerely, > > Joshua Zeidner > > > > [1] consider the amount of critical data that gets sent overseas to places > like India where there are virtually no privacy protection laws. Who is > liable in this case? Who is liable for trade secrets? Critical company or > customer information? It is a huge problem that overseas providers are > conveniently overlooking. > > [2] > http://news.com.com/India+to+tighten+offshoring+data+security/2100-1011_3-6070186.html > > > > > > On 3/30/07, Bryan O'Neal wrote: > > > > I have a financial broker that needs offsite backups, but as a financial > > institution they have more sensitive information then I am used to dealing > > with out side the confines of the government and I am not sure what needs to > > be done (legal speaking) to protect the data. I would like to slap some > > cheep server in a cheep colo with an encrypted drive and just pump automated > > backups over an ssh tunnel using rsync (Like I do for my companies backups) > > but I do not know if there are any specific security (Physical and > > encryption) rules that I need to meet. Rite now my companies back up server > > rotates through the homes of the key players, but I don't think that is a > > good idea for a machine that holds non-public information. > > > > > > > > I know there are a few of you who work (or worked) for other, larger, > > financial institutions. How did you handle offsite backups? > > > > > > > > It's late and been a long day so if this message does not make sense let > > me know ;) > > > > > > > > *Bryan O'Neal** > > Cornerstone Homes & Development, Inc.* > > 4220 E. McDowell Rd Ste. #108 > > Mesa, AZ 85215 > > (480) 505-1900 > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > -- > .0000. communication. > .0001. development. > .0010. strategy. > .0100. appeal. > > JOSHUA M. ZEIDNER > IT Consultant > > $wisdom{'mcluhan'} = "Publication is a self-invasion of privacy."; > ( 602 ) 490 8006 > jjzeidner@gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/pipermail/plug-discuss/attachments/20070330/8710084a/attachment-0001.htm > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 01:01:18 -0700 > From: Joseph Sinclair > Subject: Re: Shared contacts? > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Message-ID: <460E154E.3070902@stcaz.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > I think he wanted to share contacts among his users, not loose them into the black-hole that is Exchange ;P > > Seriously, there are a number of options available, ranging from pre-packaged (i.e. zimbra), to moderate roll-your-own (LDAP, it's easier than it looks), to fiendishly complex (SugarCRM). > > As far as LDAP goes, here's an article with instructions: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/onlamp/2003/03/27/ldap_ab.html > > Judd Pickell wrote: > > exchange with outlook for windows users, and webmail for linux users. No > > simple or free solution to solve this problem I am afraid. Atleast unless I > > have missed something mentioned recently. > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 01:27:20 -0700 > From: "Bryan O'Neal" > Subject: RE: Locations was Re: Why we are all here (was Re: audio cd) > To: "Main PLUG discussion list" > > Message-ID: > <718E547AE93F08469653AC2CB76D0028F983C5@Server2003.Cornerstonehome.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hey, I was president of ASULUG and I could not hack my way out of a > brown paper bag.... Though some how I have convinced others I can... > When I was in Jr. High I started a computer club, their were only about > four or five of us and we mostly did it because it meant we got to skip > out on class and hang out in the computer lab during mandatory club time > (something like the last two hours of school on third Wednesday of the > month or something... in high school I had ROTC with the same friends so > the computer club died, but that was not the point, really...) > > Point is you don't need to know how to hack, you just need to have some > people who want to hang out and share cool stuff... Perhaps you could > even get you computer teacher or science teacher to try eduUbuntu or > something... > > ________________________________ > > From: plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-bounces@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us] On Behalf Of > Andrew Harris > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:29 PM > To: Main PLUG discussion list > Subject: Re: Locations was Re: Why we are all here (was Re: audio cd) > > > The West-side isn't west enough. Again, I'm a kid. Who would go to a LUG > meeting organized by a kid? > > Ok, maybe lots of people. But how can I organize a LUG meeting? On the > end-user/hacker scale, I'm a little more towards the end-user side. > (Although I've convinced myself that I'm a hacker, even though I'm not > :P ) > > Alan Dayley wrote: > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Ben Francom wrote: > >> Avondale. and it is boorrrrriiiiiiing!!! > > > > I'm in Goodyear. It would be nice if there was a REAL > > West-Side...rotary girder..thing. > > There, Andrew. You already have another REAL west-sider to meet > up with! > > Really, we have a PLUG West Side Meeting once a month but if > it's not > west enough for you, create another meeting. Just declare a day > to meet > at Denny's or your garage or the closest *berto's Mexican food > place. > Not need to be fancy about it at first. Just get together and > talk > about your latest exploits with Linux. > > Announce your intentions and get a thread going. Who knows, > there may > be several REAL west-siders that want to get together over there > half > way to California. ;^) > > Alan > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFGDIbUDQw/VSQuFZYRAv8hAJ9ZR1Zmpt82fzczI1Gy5B+FoDUiXQCfWo9m > 2YnrxORiLtGVVDDVW1WddqA= > =R0Sl > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/pipermail/plug-discuss/attachments/20070331/f6b5fd6d/attachment.htm > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > End of PLUG-discuss Digest, Vol 21, Issue 95 > ******************************************** > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss