I figured out a solution to my problem! I need the extrapackages that come on two additional cds. I'm looking into getting them now. On Saturday 03 March 2007 12:36 am, Joseph Sinclair wrote: > Mike, > By reinstall I meant copy off your important files and do a fresh install > of the machine. It's theoretically possible to fix a system that has a > borked dist-upgrade, but it's both painful and time-consuming enough to > make a fresh system install the better choice in most cases. The big > red-flag I noted is the *780 packages not upgraded*, that's usually a sign > of a pending dist-upgrade that didn't complete or broke in the middle, and > changing repositories at that point generally just blows apt-get's little > tiny mind into small bits. I'm betting that the primary problem you're > having with apt-get not finding things and/or not resolving dependencies is > because apt-get needs to complete a dist-upgrade but can no longer find the > repositories where it started the upgrade, hence it just sort of gives up > and can't load or fix anything correctly. > > Michael Havens wrote: > > thank you for giving me (and everyone who pays any attention) a bit of > > your wisdom. I thought the only reason my original machine broke was > > because I updated after they had released the new KDE. At the time one of > > the people trying to help me had said this was the case. > > > > I would love to reinstall the repositories from the fresh install but > > those repositories lead to nothing. I tried to install things from those > > repositories and it could find nothing. I'll post a message on the > > discussion board and see if someone can post something I can use. > > > > Joseph, I really appreciate your help and I'll keep you posted on my > > progress in this regard. > > > > On Friday 02 March 2007 8:41 pm, Joseph Sinclair wrote: > >> Mike, > >> From the apt-get output you posted, it's pretty clear your > >> repositories are for a different version of the system than you're > >> running (hence the 780 packages not upgraded). The best solution from > >> here is to simply re-install with the version you want to be running and > >> DON'T change the repositories after that. Apt-get does a GREAT job of > >> keeping your system in sync with a single version. On many distro's, > >> however, it won't do the upgrade properly (Ubuntu's latest update is > >> infamous in this regard, and Feisty is likely to be just as bad; don't > >> upgrade Ubuntu for new versions, except LTS->LTS, reinstall instead). > >> For your stable system, you need to choose the long-term-support version > >> for whatever distro you're running (look for a 3-5 year support > >> commitment, examples include Ubuntu LTS, RHEL, etc...) and STICK TO IT. > >> Don't mess around with a stable system any more than you have to, and > >> don't upgrade to a new release without testing it elsewhere first. I've > >> taken to doing upgrades on my stable system ONLY after I've tested the > >> upgrade on another machine (which is why I didn't do the Edgy update on > >> all my Ubuntu machines, it broke the test system badly enough to require > >> a re-install so my Edgy machines are all fresh installs) and determined > >> it's both safe to upgrade and enhances system stability or adds critical > >> features. I have multiple Linux systems, one that runs a LTS version of > >> Linux that I leave alone except for critical updates; it's stable and I > >> use it for day-to-day tasks. The other systems are available for > >> experimentation because I DON'T EVER keep important data on them, and if > >> they're down for a few weeks it doesn't hurt me. One of the "testing" > >> machines is usually the guinea pig for any changes to the stable > >> machine. I install the test machine to match stable, then I do to the > >> test what I want to do on stable, and I only repeat the change on stable > >> if test works fine for several days after the change (if I need > >> something NOW I do have a semi-stable system, but that gets into some of > >> the second-order complexities of my home net and is beyond the scope of > >> this discussion). > >> > >> One of the biggest mistakes I see people > >> make, IMNSHO, with Linux is experimenting/exploring with their > >> day-to-day critical system that has their important data and > >> applications (I even did this when I first started using Linux). When > >> they're playing around makes the system unstable, they complain about > >> Linux. The thing is that Linux isn't at fault, it allows you to do > >> weird stuff because sometimes you might want to, but you're expected to > >> either know what you're doing before you start, or do your learning on a > >> spare machine you can afford to rebuild from scratch every now and then > >> without getting upset. Some people think Windows is better for > >> less-technical users because you don't have to constantly "tweak it" to > >> keep it up and running. This is complete bunk. Windows needs far more > >> support to keep running properly than Linux ever has, the difference is > >> that Linux *allows* you to tweak it constantly, so a lot of people who > >> should just leave it alone try to make a perfectly functional system run > >> "better" and end up breaking it. There's nothing wrong with trying > >> things to make a system better, just don't do it with your critical > >> day-to-day machine. Again, set up one machine that's for real work, and > >> LEAVE IT ALONE except for critical updates (hopefully applied by the > >> distribution's auto-update mechanism in the background every week or > >> so). Do your tweaking and learning on a separate "learning" system > >> (this can be in a Virtual Machine if your main system is fairly > >> powerful) and expect to rebuild it from scratch every few weeks when you > >> break stuff. > >> > >> Michael Havens wrote: > >>> This gets me to thinking: perhaps i could apt-get the stable version. > >>> THAT MIght work. To be completely honest with you I tried it already > >>> and it responded: > >>> > >>> bmike1@1[~]$ sudo apt-get install gnucash=1.8.10-12 > >>> Reading package lists... Done > >>> Building dependency tree... Done > >>> E: Version '1.8.10-12' for 'gnucash' was not found > >>> bmike1@1[~]$ sudo apt-get install gnucash=stable > >>> Reading package lists... Done > >>> Building dependency tree... Done > >>> E: Version 'stable' for 'gnucash' was not found > >>> bmike1@1[~]$ sudo apt-get install gnucash=testing > >>> Reading package lists... Done > >>> Building dependency tree... Done > >>> E: Version 'testing' for 'gnucash' was not found > >>> bmike1@1[~]$ > >>> > >>> What did I do wrong? Am I supposed to set something to stable? What? > >>> > >>> On Friday 02 March 2007 6:53 pm, Michael Havens wrote: > >>>> That is what caused this whole problem. I upgraded my ssystem and > >>>> broke EVERYthing. > >>>> > >>>> On Friday 02 March 2007 6:48 pm, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: > >>>>> That's part (or most) of your problem. You should do the updates. The > >>>>> farther you get behind, the harder is will be for you to update your > >>>>> system. If you do updates frequently (like every week or at least > >>>>> every month), it will make it easier for you to keep up. > >>>>> > >>>>>> 77 upgraded, 48 newly installed, 18 to remove and 780 not upgraded. > >>>>>> Need to get 170MB of archives. > >>>>>> After unpacking 41.7MB of additional disk space will be used. > >>>>>> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------- > >> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > >> To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > >> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss