Michael Havens wrote: > Okay, Does anyone out there on the cyber trail have a computer they want to > part with? I'm on another mailing list and a guy in Sanfransico thinks I'm > crazy for trying to keep this old box as anything except a firewall. > > Gee..... you guys think that too! > > He was saying how he picked up a box with 768 MB RAM and an 800 Mhz processor, > with a 40 gig drive, for $20 at a yard sale and said if I was in his area > he'd give it to me. (I'll post our exchange at the bottom... I think it is > funny > > I don't even need the stuff like USB ports or hard drive or floppy or CDRom. I > can just yank them out of the old computer. > > > -exchange- > > Sounds to me like udev isn't running on your box. > > Is it even installed? > > I'm running Ubuntu, another Debian derivative. Have you tried: > > dpkg -l | grep -i udev > > Have you tried running Ubuntu. Everything is just there and it works. > > Russ > > > To: Russ Button > Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message | Show original > Yep.... udev is there. > apt-get install udev > udev is the newest version > > > To: Michael Havens > Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message | Show original > Well, I can't help you a whole lot then. I've been following the > discussion a bit and if you've got to recompile the kernel... well > that's ugly. I don't know what your situation is, but have you > considered switching to Ubuntu Linux? It's also a Debian derivative and > jpilot just works, like most everything else. > > I know it's something of a tail wagging the dog kind of thing, but > Ubuntu really is complete. I've been using one form of 'IX or another > since 1989 and I'm in love with Ubuntu. > > Russ > > > To: Russ Button > Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message | Show original > I like the sound of that. I guess Ubuntuu shouldn't be that bad...... > but really I do want to compile a kernel. I guess it is for my own > edification. If compiling a new kernel doesn't help I will do it then > PLUS I'll have my custom kernel! > > > To: Michael Havens > Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message | Show original > Having a custom kernel only means that YOU have to support that kernel. > And 6 months from now when a later kernel rev comes out, if you want to > be current, you'll have to re-compile that kernel with your specific > mods, which may or may not work with that kernel. > > I haven't had to compile a kernel in 15 years and I don't plan to do so > again any time soon. > > Give me something that works. > > Russ > > > To: Russ Button > Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message | Show original > I am running the 2 6 15 kernel now and the concensus seems to be that > my box cannot run such a kernel. I then ran synaptic to get a 2 4 > kernel (2 4 27-2-k6) but that didn't install a properly running > kernel. So I am just biding my time until: > 1- it works > 2- someone takes the time to help show me how to compile it. > > It seems david said he had written an extensive how to so right now I > am just waiting for a link to it > - Show quoted text - > > > To: Michael Havens > Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message | Show original > Running Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake), I have the 2.6.15-27 kernel. Unless > your box is REALLY old, I'm sure it would support that just fine. All > it needs is a 350 Mhz processor and 128 MB RAM. Surely you have that much. > > > > To: Russ Button > Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message | Show original > REAAAAALY old! I had it built in 97..... or was it 96? It has a k6 > processor > > > To: Michael Havens > Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message | Show original > Oh God! Why do you waste your time with it then when newer stuff is > sooooooo cheap? Isn't your time worth something? Last year I picked up > a box with 768 MB RAM and an 800 Mhz processor, with a 40 gig drive, for > $20 at a yard sale. I'm cleaning out the basement now and if you were > here in the San Francisco area where I live, I'd give the damn thing to > you. Good grief! 1997?! > > Machines that old can be useful, but not as desktops. There's a special > Linux gizmo out there which exists solely on a floppy disk for the > purpose of making your machine into a firewall. Put two NIC cards in > the box and a floppy drive, and that's all you need. No hard drive at > all. Of course seeing as how you can buy commercial firewall/routers > for about $25 new, why bother?! > > Junk that machine man and score something a little newer at least. I'll > betcha you could find a 500 Mhz PIII box for $50 or less if you just > look around. > > Coolness, > > Russ > > > To: Russ Button > Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message | Show original > Okay Russ.... I'll look around. I'll ask the local Linux guys! They'll > help me pick something up (I hope). > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > I'm thinking about selling my machine and building something not as powerful. Mine might be a bit overkill for what you're looking for though. AMD 64 3200 @ 2.0ghz 1gb Corsair XMS ram with heatspreader. Epox nForce 4 with SLI NVidia 7600GT with 256mb x2 in SLI 160gb SATA Creative X-Fi Fatal1ty soundcard memorex 48x cd-burner/DVDrom Logitech G5 mouse ideazon MERC keyboard 5.1 logitech 80watt speakers brand new Antec 900 case 450w Antec true blue power supply. I'm looking to try and get atleast $1700 for this or the equivalent in PC parts. I'm going to build a more powerful desktop that's not so game oriented after I get rid of this machine. Like I said, it's a lot of overkill for what you're looking for, but if you know someone who has a kid that likes to play games this one is solid for it. --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss