Okay, Does anyone out there on the cyber trail have a computer they want to part with? I'm on another mailing list and a guy in Sanfransico thinks I'm crazy for trying to keep this old box as anything except a firewall. Gee..... you guys think that too! He was saying how he picked up a box with 768 MB RAM and an 800 Mhz processor, with a 40 gig drive, for $20 at a yard sale and said if I was in his area he'd give it to me. (I'll post our exchange at the bottom... I think it is funny I don't even need the stuff like USB ports or hard drive or floppy or CDRom. I can just yank them out of the old computer. -exchange- Sounds to me like udev isn't running on your box. Is it even installed? I'm running Ubuntu, another Debian derivative. Have you tried: dpkg -l | grep -i udev Have you tried running Ubuntu. Everything is just there and it works. Russ To: Russ Button Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message | Show original Yep.... udev is there. apt-get install udev udev is the newest version To: Michael Havens Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message | Show original Well, I can't help you a whole lot then. I've been following the discussion a bit and if you've got to recompile the kernel... well that's ugly. I don't know what your situation is, but have you considered switching to Ubuntu Linux? It's also a Debian derivative and jpilot just works, like most everything else. I know it's something of a tail wagging the dog kind of thing, but Ubuntu really is complete. I've been using one form of 'IX or another since 1989 and I'm in love with Ubuntu. Russ To: Russ Button Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message | Show original I like the sound of that. I guess Ubuntuu shouldn't be that bad...... but really I do want to compile a kernel. I guess it is for my own edification. If compiling a new kernel doesn't help I will do it then PLUS I'll have my custom kernel! To: Michael Havens Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message | Show original Having a custom kernel only means that YOU have to support that kernel. And 6 months from now when a later kernel rev comes out, if you want to be current, you'll have to re-compile that kernel with your specific mods, which may or may not work with that kernel. I haven't had to compile a kernel in 15 years and I don't plan to do so again any time soon. Give me something that works. Russ To: Russ Button Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message | Show original I am running the 2 6 15 kernel now and the concensus seems to be that my box cannot run such a kernel. I then ran synaptic to get a 2 4 kernel (2 4 27-2-k6) but that didn't install a properly running kernel. So I am just biding my time until: 1- it works 2- someone takes the time to help show me how to compile it. It seems david said he had written an extensive how to so right now I am just waiting for a link to it - Show quoted text - To: Michael Havens Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message | Show original Running Ubuntu 6.06 (Dapper Drake), I have the 2.6.15-27 kernel. Unless your box is REALLY old, I'm sure it would support that just fine. All it needs is a 350 Mhz processor and 128 MB RAM. Surely you have that much. To: Russ Button Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message | Show original REAAAAALY old! I had it built in 97..... or was it 96? It has a k6 processor To: Michael Havens Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message | Show original Oh God! Why do you waste your time with it then when newer stuff is sooooooo cheap? Isn't your time worth something? Last year I picked up a box with 768 MB RAM and an 800 Mhz processor, with a 40 gig drive, for $20 at a yard sale. I'm cleaning out the basement now and if you were here in the San Francisco area where I live, I'd give the damn thing to you. Good grief! 1997?! Machines that old can be useful, but not as desktops. There's a special Linux gizmo out there which exists solely on a floppy disk for the purpose of making your machine into a firewall. Put two NIC cards in the box and a floppy drive, and that's all you need. No hard drive at all. Of course seeing as how you can buy commercial firewall/routers for about $25 new, why bother?! Junk that machine man and score something a little newer at least. I'll betcha you could find a 500 Mhz PIII box for $50 or less if you just look around. Coolness, Russ To: Russ Button Reply | Reply to all | Forward | Print | Trash this message | Show original Okay Russ.... I'll look around. I'll ask the local Linux guys! They'll help me pick something up (I hope). --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss