I used the VR3 and a Samsung Vorbis player. The VR3 is something like: http://www.roadmasterusa.com/fmmod_vr3.php I can play any portable device through my car's stereo. And I can take the device and listen with headphones elsewhere. Personally, I'd prefer a car stereo at allowed a mini-jack line-in. The Samsung YEPP YP-C1 plays Vorbis files (I don't know why the packaging marketing says OGG, since it only plays Ogg Vorbis files). It looks just like a USB thumb drive (it uses a USB to USB mini connector cable) to my Linux machine. If you can, try to avoid the YP-C1. It firmware has bugs when it attempts to create its own files. Files written from Linux are OK. I've gotten about 19 hours of play from a standard alkaline battery and 3 or 4 hours from a Lithium battery that my camera had finished using. I haven't tracked the duration of a new AA lithium battery. -Paul --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss