Very nice, George. Instead of scrape'n'paste though, I'd be inclined to put all the commands in an array. Then you could write a little super-script routine that would allow you navigate/search/index through them and select the one(s) you'd like to execute, instead of s'n'p. Maybe that'd be overkill. I'm not adept at s'n'p in terminal mode. I should probably learn. Can someone go over this at a meeting? George Toft wrote: > George rambling on . . . > > Making Sure Servers Are Identical > ================================= > I have a file called /root/changes that is actually a shell script of > every command I issue to make a change on a box. If I need to make a > change to httpd.conf, for example, I script it with sed or vi. > > Here's an example of how it worked: I built a web server in development, > and tested it. Once we were happy with it, we deployed the production > server and executed the commands in /root/changes by scraping and > pasting the commands. It took 15 minutes to configure the prod server > and 30 minutes to upload content. I could have executed the file, but > chose to carefully view the results of each command instead. > > When we had to add mail functionality, I built qmail in development, > added the instructions to /root/changes, and paste/scrape in prod. > Easy-peasy. Then I updated /root/changes on the prod server :) > > Needless to say, I absolutely backup /root as my DR plan for that server > is stored there :) > > > Managing Multiple Servers Simultaneously > ======================================== > If you need to make small changes to many machines, consider using an > expect script called multixterm that allows you to spawn multiple xterms > with one command window. This way, all you need to do is enter the > command once in the command window, and it goes to every box you have an > xterm on. > > DANGER *** DANGER *** DANGER *** DANGER *** DANGER *** DANGER > You better type the command perfectly. If you make a mistake, you are > magnifying your mistake exponentially. > > I used this method at IBM for the 100+ servers I admin'd. It drove > management nuts, but I was 4x as efficient as most other SA's (by their > metrics). Since the script was standard and well tested by the OS > Engineers, I could update the servers as fast as I could log in and > paste the commands. > > Ever try to manage 100+ xterms? I used icewm with 12 desktops on two > monitors to logically group the xterms and position them so I could see > the results of the commands. (It was actually icewm under cygwin on > Windows XP.) > > > Different Method > ================ > When I was at a web hosting company in L.A., I developed a system where > I could push out updates in the form of a script. Every hour, the > recipient boxes would check for the update script and execute it. Yes, > I made a mistake on one push and had to engineer a fix and push it out > in under an hour. There is much to be said for *thoroughly* testing > your changes as well as scrape and paste :) > > > Cheers! > > George Toft, CISSP, MSIS > 623-203-1760 > > > > > Dazed_75 wrote: >> I find myself making the same alterations to a small number of systems >> but some of them repeatedly as I try different distros. I try to keep >> some notes but find they are inadequate and inconsistent. It is also >> painful to always make the changes manually. I know that in large >> environments there are tools such as source management systems, network >> installers, etc. but they are serious overkill to the small network or >> individual user such as I. >> >> It occurs to me that this is a situation many of you have faced and >> perhaps conquered. My hope is that there are some best practices people >> might be willing to discuss here and that the discussion might be useful >> to others besides me. So if you have favored techniques or tools, lets >> hear about them. For example, a tool/script/etc to scan for and >> document changes from a base install, a format/method for noting changes >> made (and when/how?), or a reasonable means for re-asserting those >> changes after a system re-install or upgrade. Yes, it is a lot to ask >> but not asking helps no one. >> >> -- >> Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't >> matter and those who matter don't mind. - Dr. Seuss >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> -- -Eric 'shubes' --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss