It seems that Tru64 does keep a hashed version of the passwd file for performance reasons. man passwd didnt reveal it, but, man vipw did. What I was looking for was 'mkpasswd'. Thanks to all who responded that pointed me in the right directions. David -- "I find your lack of faith disturbing." --Darth Vader --- 10:20:01 up 25 days, 4:14, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss