On Mon, 2006-11-13 at 22:16 -0700, der.hans wrote: > Am 12. Nov, 2006 schwätzte Joshua Zeidner so: > > > Macs are fairly popular, but the Mac crowd rarely intersects with the Linux > > crowd. This is probably due to the fact that if someone could get linux > > running, why would they buy a Mac? > > Hmmm, I find that there are lots of intersections. > > The local OS X group started off with several Free Software enthusiasts > from PLUG. I know lots of sysadms who use a multitude of operating > systems. Many of them are even Free Software enthusiasts. > > To some extent they use OSen other than GNU/Linux or *BSD due to job > requirements, but some also just prefer to use them for one reason or > another. ---- perhaps it started that way but I became very unpopular on the OS X group (as a few on this list will recall), because I was unhappy with the lack of interest, enthusiasm for free software on that list. On that note, I will mention that I visited the Apple Store yesterday with another dead Mac only to find out that the $99 'Pro Care' card no longer affords the opportunity to simply drop off dead Macs without an appointment at the 'Genius Bar'. If you pay the extortion fee for expedited service, you still have to make an appointment so it appears that the extortion fee is only meaningful once they accept your computer for repairs...they will repair it before they repair the systems of those who don't pay the fee. On the service issue alone, Apple fails miserably...let me explain. I have a client that is a advertising agency/public relations firm. They are smart, they keep a spare computer for each division. On the Macintosh, this means a rather software laden system with an extra copy of Suitcase/Quark/Photoshop/Illustrator/Acrobat/etc. On Windows, this means primarily Microsoft Office. A power supply dies in each system (both under warranty). On the Macintosh, I call Apple's Tech Support. Eventually, they get to the point that they can't help me with my hardware problem and that I should bring it to the Apple Store. We have a 'Pro Care' card for priority service. I used to be able to drop it off and pick it up...not any more. I have to call and make an appointment with a service tech 1 - 14 days depending upon prior appointments. Wait while the tech again confirms that the problem is the power supply, sign the paperwork and leave the computer there. Time 45 minutes not including travel time and then I have to pick it up 1-3 days later when repaired. On the Dell system, I call their tech support and they actually take my word that the reason the system won't turn on is because the power supply is dead and offer me the option of shipping the part alone, or schedule a tech for the next day. Some of these systems are going out of warranty (after 3 years, you can't get warranty). Apple cost for power supply replacement on Mirror-door G4 - $270 Dell cost for power supply replacement on Optiplex - $ 45 Apple has dampened all enthusiasm I ever had for them...I even sold my Cube (which had surprisingly good resale value) Craig --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss