Ok, got kubuntu up and running. my Intel Pro/Wireless 2915 was recognized and came up automagically. That was even better than Mandrake 2005LE a couple of years ago! Now, I need to get some programs, like for instance - I am addicted to pysol. I know how to do the rpm -Uvh of a python rpm, but how do you do package management in kubuntu. I invoked adept_installer, and all it gave me were KDE or GNOME packages in its list. I'll get this debian based stuff yet, but I have a few kinks to iron out first. Jerry -- Happy Trails! Hobbit Name: Pimpernel Loamsdown Registered Linux User: 275424 Jeep Motto #2: Paved Roads are a Fine Example of Needless Government Spending! --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss