I think the problem with my usb ports is that the permissions are wrong. the reason I think this is that lsmod <1>, lspci <2>, and lsusb <3> do detect them and I am in groups 'usb' <4>. Do you think I'm on the right track? to fix this could I:      chown -R /*usb* /*USB* or perhaps      chmod -R 777  /*usb* /*USB* <1> bmike1@0[~]$ sudo lsmod  Module Size Used by  usbserial 28520 1 visor <2>  bmike1@0[~]$ sudo lspci -v  0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [UHCI]) Subsystem: VIA Technologies, Inc. (Wrong ID) USB Controller  Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11  I/O ports at d400 [size=32] <3> bmike1@0[~]$ sudo lsusb -v Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 Device Descriptor:   bLength                18   bDescriptorType         1   bcdUSB               1.10   bDeviceClass            9 Hub   bDeviceSubClass         0 Unused   bDeviceProtocol         0   bMaxPacketSize0        64   idVendor           0x0000   idProduct          0x0000   bcdDevice            2.06   iManufacturer           3 Linux 2.6.15-26-386 uhci_hcd   iProduct                2 UHCI Host Controller   iSerial                 1 0000:00:07.2   bNumConfigurations      1   Configuration Descriptor:     bLength                 9     bDescriptorType         2     wTotalLength           25     bNumInterfaces          1     bConfigurationValue     1     iConfiguration          0     bmAttributes         0xc0       Self Powered     MaxPower                0mA     Interface Descriptor:       bLength                 9       bDescriptorType         4       bInterfaceNumber        0       bAlternateSetting       0       bNumEndpoints           1       bInterfaceClass         9 Hub       bInterfaceSubClass      0 Unused       bInterfaceProtocol      0       iInterface              0       Endpoint Descriptor:         bLength                 7         bDescriptorType         5         bEndpointAddress     0x81  EP 1 IN         bmAttributes            3           Transfer Type            Interrupt           Synch Type               None           Usage Type               Data         wMaxPacketSize     0x0002  1x 2 bytes         bInterval             255 Hub Descriptor:   bLength               9   bDescriptorType      41   nNbrPorts             2   wHubCharacteristic 0x000a     No power switching (usb 1.0)     Per-port overcurrent protection   bPwrOn2PwrGood        1 * 2 milli seconds   bHubContrCurrent      0 milli Ampere   DeviceRemovable    0x48   PortPwrCtrlMask    0xc0  Hub Port Status:    Port 1: 0000.0301 lowspeed power connect    Port 2: 0000.0100 power Device Status:     0x0001   Self Powered <4> bmike1@0[~]$ groups bmike1 bmike1 : users tty disk lp uucp dialout fax voice cdrom floppy tape sudo audio dip video games lpadmin usb scanner cdrecording camera plugdev bmike1@0[~]$ --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss