. Thanks for the information you shared, Ted. While I do not question anything that you said, the problem still lies with the consumer's inability to choose what programs they want and what programs they >>do not<< want coming into their homes. I would gladly pay $1.00 per month for Fox news, but I wouldn't pay a plug nickle for CNN or MSNBC. In fact, I would gladly pay 50-cents a month to >>not<< have their hate-America-first politically biased garbage forced on me. Likewise with all the Spanish language channels. I have no anti-Hispanic bias (we have lots of fine Hispanic people in our neighborhood and I like them all), I just don't want to be forced to have to click through a bunch of channels in a language that I don't understand. I just want the channels that >>I<< want, and not a bunch of other garbage (to me) that I do not want. Regarding the converter boxes, your explanation of "wildly incompatible" factors may abe true; however my point remains ... and that is that my experience proved to me that it was and still >>IS<< possible to receive a perfect HDTV signal via cable >>without<< any nuisance converter box (and without any special card inside my TV). Therefore, all of Cox's fabricated excuses are, imho, just part of their great scam. Joe ------------------ On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, Ted Gould wrote > On Thu, 2 Nov 2006, Josef Lowder wrote: > > The crux of the problem is the complete lack of any real free-market > > competition because of the complicity and collusion among the cable > > and sat signal providers to scam the public by not allowing people > > to just choose and pay for ONLY the channels they want. > > This angst is largely misplaced. While sat and cable companies are > the fronts for this, the real drivers are the media companies. They > want you to get "bundles" of programming. I good example of this is > the reported negotiations with Fox News. (I don't want to talk > about the politics, let's just talk about them as a business today) > The rumor mill is saying that they're trying to increase their rate > from 22 cents per sub per month to almost a dollar. (CNN is 44 > cents, but Fox has better ratings) Rumors also say that the > sat/cable companies can get a "significant discount" if they agree > to carry the Fox Financial channel that they're trying to start. > Boom, they're bundled. > > While you can look at the economics of the situation as a company > like DirecTV with 15 million subscribers paying $50 a month; so they > take in $750 million/month. The vast majority of that goes to > Viacom, News Corp, CNN, etc. Realistically, the distributors > (sat/cable) are just middle men. > > > The whole box converter thing is a needless scam anyway. > > > > When we first got our new HD in August, we were getting a bunch of > > great, crystal clear, 9x16 HD signals over the same cable that we > > previously had for our old analog TV. But when a couple of those > > channels just disappeared (after Cox took over), I called to find > > out what the problem was and they told me that there never had been > > any such channels as I had been watching for more than a month, > > that it was impossible, there were no such channels. That the > > only way you could get those channels was by getting their box. > > Well, while I'm not sure of their specific conditions, there are > some reasons for this. The different cable network providers are > wildly incompatible. If Cox has a Motorola system and the old one > was SA, they have to replace everything as they start to upgrade. > Also, they've probably moved some of the channels to MPEG4 and your > old boxes were only MPEG2. Perhaps a modulation upgrade. It's all > about bandwidth, they save it with video compression and increase it > with new modulation techniques. All of which require box upgrades, > headend upgrades, and usually a few network upgrades. > > I won't say they aren't scam artists, but there are a few real > reasons for doing some of this. --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss