Linspire has made CNR free (as in beer) and have plans to open source it soon. http://forum.freespire.org/showthread.php?t=1527 I don't know if they ever fixed their security settings. But I was never a big fan of Lindows (I haven't really tried it since they changed the name), that said if they start offering CNR for Ubuntu or some other debian based distro (and once its opensource I'm sure that will be the case) I will certainly be checking it out. --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss