Darin Wayrynen spoke forth with the blessed manuscript: > > Author: Mike Garfias > > Date: 2006-05-30 18:24 -700 > > To: Main PLUG discussion list > > Subject: Re: where to buy server locally > > Darin - > > > > Your numbers there are a bit off. I took a WAG based on the prices quoted on > > your site for what it would cost me for a 1U box with 1Mbps. > > > > According to your page, a 1U system is $45 in rack fees, and $135 for 50GB > > with each additional GB being $3. > > > > 1Mbps = 330GB (roughly) > > 330-50 = 280 > > 280 * 3 = $840/mo > > > > Right now I pay $100mo for rack space with bandwidth included (1Mbps 95th > > percentile) with each additional Mbps being $100. So $100 vs your $106, but > > your $106 doesn't include the same bandwidth that is included in what I get. > > > > So it really looks more like 1/8th the price. And there are cheaper deals out > > there (I just didn't feel comfortable using them). We get monitoring, remote > > reboot, serial consoles, etc included. The downside is that my box is in LA, > > not local. But I pay a friend of mine in LA to go down there and beat on it > > when the serial console isn't enough. > > > > Not trying to flame you in anyway, but just keep the numbers straight. > > > Hi Mike, > > I understand you aren't trying to flame me, nor was I trying to flame > you. > > But I think you are not comparing apples to apples so it's sort of > hard for anyone to keep their numbers straight. No doubt. I was trying to approximate based on what I'm paying for and what your site lists. > > You are quoting our highest data center price (we have two price > points), and then trying to manipulate the GB price to compare to your > 95%tile megabit price in California which is not even quoted on their > web site - so you are using off list pricing against our most > expensive onlist pricing... I just checked, and you're right. I had forgotten that the 1U list there wasn't shown with a 1Mbps option. > > We have different rates for 95%tile measurement than GBs used > measurement. We offer both types of billing - based on our clients > preference. > > Anyone wanting to pre-purchase a full megabit, or 330 GB's isn't going > to be paying the numbers you quoted. The price for colocating a 1u > server using 1 megabit of bandwidth is not going to be 8 times or even > 5 times what you are paying in the bay area. It might not be as > inexpensive as the bay area, but your server will be closer to home so > you won't have random support costs of having your box serviced over > there. Depending on the bandwidth you really use, it might even be > cheaper. Earlier in the thread I stated that we're using about .25Mbps right now, and it made sense to just pay the extra $40/mo for the 1Mbps as our needs are growing. > > The point I really would like to make is that 95% of our customers > don't use the bare minimum amount of bandwidth we charge for - it's > not even close, so comparing our minimum charge to a provider that > gives 1 meg or 10 megs or 100 megs of bandwidth for one flat price, > and then trying to manipulate our price to match isn't based on > reality. Sure if you are using 1 meg, then you have to make those > adjustments, but I'd venture to guess that most people reading this > thread are not using 330 GB's a month of bandwidth. Granted :). We're not quite there, but I think in a month or two we will be. > > Using that sort of comparison logic you are overpaying at layer42 when > you could lease a server from ev1servers (who has a much better > network than layer42) where you can get a 10 megabit un-metered line > AND a server for $199/month - which means you are paying 5 times more > than you could be paying for a 10 meg line... Right, but I don't get a dual proc opteron with H/W raid. I'm also a bit picky when it comes to my own projects. > > > Write to me offline if you want to see if we can make it worth your > while to move your server back home. With our remote kvm solution you > won't even need to go down and pound on the keyboard yourself unless > you like sitting in cold data centers or have bad hardware. > Thats what management cards are for! I (personally) am locked in here for a year. There were other concerns too (this might not be home for too much longer), so we chose to place the box in a neutral location that is easy to get to. This wasn't the reason I asked though. Have another project that requires the box(es) be local. I believe the guy running the show called and got a quote, but that was beat by limelight. --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss