Richard and Jared: ----------------------- Thanks for the pointers. Ubuntu 5.10 seems to have both tools (though they could have come in with some other package I added - will have to check that). Both tools seems to not like my eth1 (wireless) but frankly that might be operator error as I have had little time to explore it. Oh and Jared thanks for the tip but I will have to research that as I have no idea what the "metric" is/means and whether/how to adjust it. NTL, see below for info as to why I am not yet pursuing that. der.hans: ------------ My /etc/network/interfaces is: # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5). # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # This is a list of hotpluggable network interfaces. # They will be activated automatically by the hotplug subsystem. mapping hotplug script grep map eth0 # The primary network interface iface eth0 inet dhcp # pre-up [ -f /etc/network/local-network-ok ] iface eth1 inet dhcp wireless-essid mariewilliam auto eth0 Note that the commented out pre-up line was from an experiment based on a suggestion I found on the web which was not helpful. ============================= New Information for everyone looking at this and especially for the folks trying to help. This is a new discovery and what I did as a result which did not help but maybe would suggest a new approach to understanding this issue. Please recognize that it would seem the best solution would be to find a way to make the wireless eth1 not come up if the wired eth0 is functional. But I would also like to understand why it is a problem for both to be active (beyond the wireless being slower). The symptoms do not make sense and I believe are indicative of a deeper underlying issue which probably should be corrected and not just for me. ============================== Quick recap. Toshiba 5105-S701 laptop running Ubuntu 5.10 has built-in ethernet and wireless 802.11b when powered up connected to a wired LAN which also has a wireless AP used when the laptop is in a different room activates BOTH interfaces and NEITHER is usable for internet access until the other is deactivated. While trying out some of the suggestions, I was displaying properties from right clicking the Network Monitors for each interface which I had added to a Gnome Panel. When doing the ping yahoo.com tests I noticed there was regular TX and RX activity on eth0 although the ping command never display ANYTHING. I also noticed some occasional RX activity on eth1 but suspected that was some betwork broadcat stuff and there was corresponding TX activity. Now the truly FASCINATING part is that after a lengthy time (maybe 20-30 minutes), the pings suddenly started working and the related activity was now on eth1. I rechecked all the status commands folks had been advising me to use and noticed no changes to the results. I then began a series of reboots where I tried each of those commands before and after a ping test in case one of them was having a side effect. None seemed to fix the problem except the passage of time. Hence I suspected some scheduled or regularly repeated event and decided to see if I could find it. I used logger to insert findable messages into syslog describing what the step I was on and/or test results. The theory being that I MIGHT see a significant event in syslog or in one of the other log files in /var/log which I could look at based on the timestamps of my added messages in syslog. After doing this for about 20 minutes, pings started working but I learned NOTHING from the logs. I could post some of that here but it would be quite voluminous and I thought it better to see if anyone has any suggestions about specific logging, logging configurations, and/or any test with a simple enough output to feed to logger and loop it. What do you think? Ideas or should I abandon the quest for knowledge and just find a way to make the wireless not come up or to shut down if the wired interface is functional? --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss