P.S. If anyone has a used socket-462 motherboard they'd like to get rid of, I'll buy it from you. (I can probably find one on-line somewhere, but I thought I'd ask anyway.) Vaughn On Fri, 2006-04-07 at 18:25, Vaughn Treude wrote: > Hello, > Here's one for you hardware gurus. > > I've got a PC that has behaved badly on and off; shuts off sporadically. > It's a problem that was occasional at first and has gotten worse as > time's gone by. After a lot of messing around I've convince myself that > it's a hardware problem. (There are absolutely no messages in software; > the logs just end suddenly. And I've swapped out everything except the > video card, a Radeon 7500 AGP, seems doubtful that's doing it, but I > suppose it's possible.) Troubles are, (a) the motherboards's out of > warranty, and (b) I really like the board otherwise, it's got the best > on-board sound hardware I've ever heard. (It's an Abit, with a > socket-462 AMD processor, if you wonder.) Yeah, I should've returned it, > but it's so much hassle when it's mail-order and home built - take > everything apart, take out the CPU and RAM, package it up, and lose the > use of the system for a month until they send you a new one. So if the > problem is at all tolerable I live with it - foolish, but that's water > under the bridge. > > The deal is that I've always assumed this was the ACPI malfunctioning; > when it shuts off it's hosed and you can't reboot it until you manually > shut off the power-supply switch for 10 seconds or so - I'd guess that > has to turn off the 5V standby power so something can be reset. So I'd > like to just shut ACPI off, but it appears that the BIOS just won't let > you shut off this feature. (How obnoxious is that? Is that some kind of > "Energy Star" certification requirement?) So I Googled for a while and > found some postings somewhere from someone who got the bright idea to > bypass the PS-ON signal in the ATX power supply connector, and hold it > low so the mobo can't turn the PS off. As an experiment, I rigged a > power supply cable extender to a SPDT switch which would allow me to > either route the PS-ON signal normally or tie it to ground. It's weird; > I can turn it on via that switch but the system won't boot, probably > because nothing tells the mobo that's what it's supposed to be doing. > So I figured that if I did the bypass switch after the system was on, it > would bypass PS-ON, thereby preventing the sporadic shutoff. That > doesn't appear to work, as it shut itself off while I had the signal > bypassed. Now I wonder if they actually use the PWROK (AKA "Power > Good") signal for this ACPI garbage. Or is it possible that PWROK > signal can also indicate some sort of sporadic problem with the power on > the board? (Kind of like the "Check Engine" light on your car, which > can mean anything from "your gas cap's loose" to "your engine's about to > explode.") > > Oh well. I think this board's ready for the garbage, but if anyone has > any other suggestions, it would make for an interesting experiment. > > Vaughn > > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss