Hello, Here's one for you hardware gurus. I've got a PC that has behaved badly on and off; shuts off sporadically. It's a problem that was occasional at first and has gotten worse as time's gone by. After a lot of messing around I've convince myself that it's a hardware problem. (There are absolutely no messages in software; the logs just end suddenly. And I've swapped out everything except the video card, a Radeon 7500 AGP, seems doubtful that's doing it, but I suppose it's possible.) Troubles are, (a) the motherboards's out of warranty, and (b) I really like the board otherwise, it's got the best on-board sound hardware I've ever heard. (It's an Abit, with a socket-462 AMD processor, if you wonder.) Yeah, I should've returned it, but it's so much hassle when it's mail-order and home built - take everything apart, take out the CPU and RAM, package it up, and lose the use of the system for a month until they send you a new one. So if the problem is at all tolerable I live with it - foolish, but that's water under the bridge. The deal is that I've always assumed this was the ACPI malfunctioning; when it shuts off it's hosed and you can't reboot it until you manually shut off the power-supply switch for 10 seconds or so - I'd guess that has to turn off the 5V standby power so something can be reset. So I'd like to just shut ACPI off, but it appears that the BIOS just won't let you shut off this feature. (How obnoxious is that? Is that some kind of "Energy Star" certification requirement?) So I Googled for a while and found some postings somewhere from someone who got the bright idea to bypass the PS-ON signal in the ATX power supply connector, and hold it low so the mobo can't turn the PS off. As an experiment, I rigged a power supply cable extender to a SPDT switch which would allow me to either route the PS-ON signal normally or tie it to ground. It's weird; I can turn it on via that switch but the system won't boot, probably because nothing tells the mobo that's what it's supposed to be doing. So I figured that if I did the bypass switch after the system was on, it would bypass PS-ON, thereby preventing the sporadic shutoff. That doesn't appear to work, as it shut itself off while I had the signal bypassed. Now I wonder if they actually use the PWROK (AKA "Power Good") signal for this ACPI garbage. Or is it possible that PWROK signal can also indicate some sort of sporadic problem with the power on the board? (Kind of like the "Check Engine" light on your car, which can mean anything from "your gas cap's loose" to "your engine's about to explode.") Oh well. I think this board's ready for the garbage, but if anyone has any other suggestions, it would make for an interesting experiment. Vaughn --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss