Yeah, I've watched the threads on the fedora list, but nothing seems to have been clarified for me. I'm using and really liking FC5, but the ndiswrapper seems to have taken a step backwards. Or at least something with kernel modules. (the non-gpl thing maybe?) BTW, this is on a pavilion zv5440 with a broadcom 43xx. I will eventually try the bcm43xx driver. Using either the livna ndiswapper packages or compiling from source, I have the same problem. I don't get an entry in modprob.conf unless I amnually enter it. So system-network-config doesn't see ndiswrapper(wlan0) as a type of wireless device it can manage. When I enter "alias wlan0 ndiswrapper" in modprob.conf, I can add wlan0 in sys-net-cfg but it can't actually manage it and causes NetwrokManager to lose control of it unless I remove and reinstall ndiswrapper. Anyone understand what is going on and how I could fix it? I'm fine with using cli to manage it, but my family uses it too. ╔══╗ ║ j≈ ╚══╝ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss