On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 20:08 -0700, John Wheat wrote:
> 
> Craig White wrote:
> > On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 17:20 -0700, Alan Dayley wrote:
> > 
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> >>John Wheat wrote:
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> >>>  I have noticed that MP3 support is rather limited with linux,
> >>>therefore, would Ogg be a suitable alternative considering I like to
> >>>burn CD's of mixed songs in my collection. The format used would need to
> >>>be easily converted to Wav so they can be burned to CDr's any
> >>>suggestions on this?
> >>
> >>I am confused when you say that "MP3 support is rather limited with
> >>linux"  I currently have no less than 5 (maybe more) different audio
> >>players on my Fedora system that can play MP3s.  The legality of the
> >>software that encodes and decodes MP3 may be up for debate but support
> >>for the format is not limited.
> >>
> >>Ogg is a suitable alternative which I would use more, if I had a
> >>portable player that supported.  Players that support Ogg are few and
> >>far between.  I have an iPod Nano (provided as a gift) but do not use
> >>the Apple ACC format since I don't and won't use iTunes.  My only other
> >>iPod supported choice is MP3.  So, I rip my CDs to MP3.
> > 
> > ----
> > I am not knowledgeable about these things but I definitely remember
> > reading that the aac format (which isn't Apple but is part of mpeg4) 128
> > bit compression is similar in size to 128 bit mp3 compression but it
> > would take 160 bit compression in mp3 to get a similar quality of sound
> > and that is why I am using that with my iPod (not because it's Apple or
> > because I do use iTunes...sometimes).
> > 
> > I think that mp3 has been around longer and thus had it's roots set into
> > concrete whereas the newer formats that Ogg and aac can achieve better
> > audio quality at equal compression rates.
> > 
> > Anyway, the obvious choice for storage is no loss and WAV and Flac can
> > give you that - of course the amount of storage space used is
> > considerably greater. Once you have stored the 'no loss' format file,
> > you can run conversions into most any format you need pretty simply. I
> > believe that on a few of the CD's that I ripped on Linux, I ripped to
> > wav and then converted to aac, that the aac was approximately 10% of the
> > size of the wav file. I have a CD/DVD combo drive in my Windows box
> > which sometimes struggles reading CD's that a CD only drive seems to
> > handle just fine.
> > 
> > My attraction to iTunes was really simple...it has a mode of auto rip,
> > save and eject which allowed me to scan my entire cd collection on my
> > Windows box without ever looking at the screen - which was a big plus
> > since I rarely use my Windows box anyway. It took a couple of weeks to
> > scan them all in. The result was uploaded to my iPod which was very cool
> > and the only issue was that iTunes stored all of the music files in my
> > roaming profile so the first time I logged off, it took more than 24
> > hours to store the profile on my file server. I have since moved the
> > iTunes data store to a shared drive rather than in the roaming
> > profile   ;-)
> > 
> > The single obvious benefit to mp3 is that it has been around and is
> > supported by most devices and software. 
> > 
> > Craig
> > 
> 
> what are you using to do your ripping and conversions?
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if I recall correctly, I used grip for ripping and lame for conversions
though grip can handle that in one swoop.

Craig

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