Hey Mikey, Have you tried Ubuntu yet? Maybe it's time to give it a try. The Synaptec (sp?) package manager really simplifies the whole apt thing. Ubuntu is Debian based too, and seems to work with lots of hardware. There's a Live-CD version too. bmike101@cox.net wrote: > yep.... it updated other things also (lots of other things) and those other things are what broke it........ maybe it isn't broken but just needs to be 'configured to my liking'. > >>From: "Alan Dayley" >>Date: 2006/02/08 Wed PM 04:56:09 PST >>To: "Main PLUG discussion list" >>Subject: Re: broke system >> >>bmike101@cox.net said: >> >>>stoopid mee! >>>I decided to fix what I didn't need to (upgrade really) and now the system >>>doesn't work as well. >>> >>>I ran 'apt-get install kmail' and that made it so it wouldn't >>>automatically load 'x' and when I run 'startx' I don't get to choose my wm >>>but rather have to know which one I need to run. I think the wm I am >>>given when I type 'startx' is 'failsafe'. (but what do I know) To open >>>directly into the wm I want would I type 'startx icewm' (for example)? >> >>OK, installing just kmail should not mess with the loading of x and your >>other complaints here. When you ran the apt-get command, did it download >>and update other things beyond kmail? >> >>If it only install kmail, something else is going on here. Linux installs >>do not just "mess themselves up" from installing a mail application. >> >> >>>I think upgrading kmail was a bad thing! So now I'm doing 'apt-get >>>upgrade' in the hopes that will 'fix' it (not that I know what I'm doing). >> >>OK, it might, I guess. >> >> >>>If this doesn't 'fix' it I think I will set it to 'stable' and do a >>>'dist-upgrade'. Does this sound like a good plan? Do you think that after >>>what I'm doing currently is done I should try to get it to work the way >>>it is because a stable dist-upgrade is a superfluous..... errrrr.... >>>extravegant step? >> >>Debian people could better answer the validity of this course. >> >>Alan >> >> >>--------------------------------------------------- >>PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >>To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: >>http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >> > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > **************************************************** > This message has been scanned using Contraxx > Technology Group mail server v8.0.3 and is virus free. > Message sent from Mail Server 3 > **************************************************** > > -- -Eric 'shubes' **************************************************** This message has been scanned using Contraxx Technology Group mail server v8.0.3 and is virus free. Message sent from Mail Server 3 **************************************************** --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss