Here's to editing source in VIM and keeping five to ten terminals open at any given time! *solidarity fist pump!* It's hard for me to comment on current MS debugger technology because the last time I used it, I had an extra Hercules Graphics Adapter in my PC to display the debugging info. (For you youngsters, that means I'm old, for you oldsters, I'm only 31 but I was a deeply geeky child.) , but then again, I bet most VS users complaining about *nix debugging haven't worked with recent versions of dbx, mdb and dtrace. Since VS is neither free nor open source, I feel inclined to bring up both TotalView and Rational PurifyPlus. I still think gdb is decent, and Insight would probably make it more palatable to people who are looking for a GUI type debugger. I think a lot of it depends on what your focus is debug-wise, your preferences regarding GUI vs. CLI tools, your costs and/or F/OSS needs, and your comfort level with any of the tools in question. For the record, I've yet to find an IDE that I feel "more productive" in than I do with vim and CLI tools but I still hold hope that some day I'll find one. Micah --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss