since you top replied, I am gonna do the same. That is a very good reason. What should be obvious to everyone is that proprietary software has screwed your company over - selling you a limited product for a lesser price in order to bait the hook and reel in the fish at a later date. Microsoft's SBS is indeed a crippled version of their server products made attractive by it's low acquisition cost and limited in functionality, as you now realize, limited in extension, you cannot have additional AD controllers - hence no backup to the domain itself and if it dies...so does your network infrastructure. Thus I agree with your assessment except for the notion that if they are really locked into Exchange Server, they will never be free of the server licensing, CAL's etc. Thus a samba member server (which will undoubtedly outlast/outperform the SBS server might serve as a interesting demonstration of the true lasting value of F/OSS software especially as compared to the stilted proprietary purchase you already own and the extremely pricey upgrade option of a less stilted proprietary system. Craig On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 17:54 -0700, Bryan.ONeal@asu.edu wrote: > The “Why?” is a really good question. We are using a Small Business Server. > Microsoft’s online "tech support" and several Microsoft consultants indicate > that the addition of another server into our small business network will require > us to migrate away from the Small Business Server, since it has a built in > single server in the forest rule. We can add a second stand alone server with > some tweaking, but once you add all the server licensing and CALs, we are > looking at around 5K; 8K - 12K for a full migration. Mind you this is licensing > only. On the other hand adding a samba server, to take over the file sharing > rolls of our current server, costs nothing in licensing. Seems like a better > way to go. > > Quoting Craig White : > > > On Tue, 2005-11-29 at 14:24 -0700, Darrin Chandler wrote: > > > Bryan.ONeal@asu.edu wrote: > > > > > > >Ok, I am about to add a file server into our Microsoft domain (I > > hope) I have > > > >looked at all the read me's and it seems that samba 4 should handle > > the > > > >Microsoft permissions no problem. I am looking at either SuSE 9 > > Enterprise or > > > >Red Hat Enterprise. Any thought, recommendations, experiences, or > > warnings? > > > >It's for my work so I am quite nervous. I real would hat to have > > them drop $3K > > > >just to tell them “Opps! You have to drop another $8K to make it > > work because > > > >were going Microsoft.†> > > > > > > >1) Has anyone ever done this before? > > > >2) What can you tell me about doing it? > > > >3) If I were to choose SuSE vs. Red Hat as an file server that is > > integrated > > > >into a MS Active Directory, which would you recommend and why? > > > > > > > > > > > I haven't done this (yet). I did see a very simple step-by-step at > > > http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/sambaserver.shtml > > ---- > > 1 - samba 4 isn't available yet - the above link mentions nothing > > about > > kerberos so it has to be worthless when considering joining an AD > > network. > > > > 2 - official samba docs see 'By > > Example' gives you a walk through and 'How-To' has all of the > > technical > > data necessary to join an AD network. > > > > 3 - I haven't done this with AD since I am not a proponent of AD and > > proprietary methodologies that don't extend well or easily. > > > > 4 - I wouldn't expect it to make much of a difference whether it was > > SuSE or Red Hat or even a Red Hat clone like CentOS > > > > Lastly, I guess I don't understand the logic of ***why*** you want to > > put a samba server into an entirely Microsoft network as you haven't > > explained it. > > > > Craig > > > > --------------------------------------------------- > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss