Coming into this discussion late, with a few thoughts not directly related to your car list. A financial advisor once told me that making new-car payments for years was the single worst thing someone could do if they wanted to build their family's financial prosperity. He recommended getting a good-quality used car, paying cash for it and never make monthly payments. Of course, a good, reliable used car might not come cheap and you might not have that kind of cash on hand, but it's something to consider. You can often find great deals on older, big luxury cars with a single owner. They've usually been well-cared for. Nobody wants to buy them because they're looking for more fuel-efficient little cars so you can get them for a steal. I prefer big old cars because they're much safer if I get into an accident. I drive an '86 Crown Victoria with almost 200,000 miles on it, get 20 mpg and have been in 2 accidents that would have totalled a little car, but barely made a dent in mine. Aside from an oil drip and needing cosmetic work, it's a great car! The bluebook value is about $300. When it comes time to buy another car I'm going to get a diesel. The engines are simpler to work on, have fewer parts to break and best of all, they can run on vegetable oil AKA biodiesel fuel. Think about it: the next time there's either a real or fabricated energy shortage, you can fill your tank with vegetable oil and not be dependent on foreign oil. Biodiesel fuel emits no carcinogens or pollutants whatsoever. If you really want to drive cheaply, you can get barrels of used frying oil from restaurants and filter it yourself. Otherwise, bulk cooking oil from Sam's or Costco is very inexpensive. Go ahead and laugh at me now. Siri Amrit --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss