When the first recumbent bicycles first appeared, they turned out to be too fast for the Tour de France, so you won't see them there. That was about 100 years ago ... A recumbent with a shell was the first bike to take the prize for hitting 65 mph. In the demolition derbies, they banned some cars like the '73 Continental because they were indestructable so it wasn't fair. :-) I drove a rotary Mazda once back in the 70s. Cool. I once left a traffic light, shifted into 2nd at about 2 mph, and took it up to 55 on the freeway in 2nd before the tach approached the red line. Sweet, smooth running engines. I heard once that they wear out and start eating oil very quickly. But that was a long time ago, they may have improved that. Vic --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss