In a message dated 10/25/2005 7:46:47 PM US Mountain Standard Time, craigwhite@azapple.com writes: >If the system were purchased from a normal >vendor, the install codes for that machine would be on the certificate >affixed to the computer itself. Sorry, thanks for playing. Stick-on certificates didn't show up til like the year 2000. I've seen them in 98SE flavours, but it's entirely possible you'd not have one on a 98SE box. The copy of Win98SE I bought at Fry's in 1999 had the certificate as the front page of the manual. It was an OEM copy, presumably the most likely sort to be packaged with a certificate you'd permanently bind to a case. The copy of Win95 that came with my P100 had a free-floating CoA which promptly got lost when I wanted to reinstall it. And a stick-on certificate is monumentally stupid. If you change the case, it disappears. The machines in at least one of the labs at ASU (2nd floor GWC east side) had the stickers defaced to unreadability and-or peeled off by fidgety students, so they're obviously not impervious. If you spend hundreds of dollars extra for a premium case and paint job (ie Falcon Northwest or Voodoo), you don't want an ugly sticker on it. Why oh why can't they just do a #(%# USB dongle or something similar? It's keygen-proof, it's transferrable between systems or through upgrades, and we all have 900 extra USB ports we don't need anymore. --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss