OK, I got it working with my Treo 600 and FC4. Not the exact situation as you guys with FC3 and the 650, but pretty similar. The longest problem for me was actually trying to get evolution to use the conduits. After adding: BUS="usb", SYSFS{product}="Palm Handheld*", KERNEL="ttyUSB[13579]", SYMLINK="pilot" to /etc/udev/rules.d/10-visor.rules I was seeing udev correctly create the device and changing ownership to the correct user. As mentioned earlier, it is a slow process so you need to set the timeout high. from here, when I pushed the hotsync button, I saw usb/udev pickup and assign the device in /var/log/messages output. step one complete. For some reason the gpilot applet/daemon was not wanting to work. After doing research I found that I needed to upgrade rpms for the following (for FC4) which were not provided by redhat. gnome-pilot-2.0.13-4.i386.rpm gnome-pilot-conduits-2.0.13-2.i386.rpm evolution-data-server-1.2.2-3.i386.rpm pilot-link-0.12.0-0.pre4.0.fc4.2.i386.rpm After that, everything worked... Note, there were many failed attempts with other rpms/src's until coming to this solution. I know for FC3, there is an evolution-pilot rpm, but for FC4 there was no such nicety. Hope this helps guys and good luck. --- Craig White wrote: > On Wed, 2005-10-05 at 06:17 -0700, Bart Garst wrote: > > This thread reminded me of a similar problem I'm > having with jpilot. > > > > I recently upgraded my kernel to 2.6.8 from 2.6.7. > With 2.6.7 I could sync > > with no problems. After the upgrade, /dev/pilot is > gone. > > > > I reinstalled jpilot, figuring it should take care > of setting up /dev/pilot, > > and it did. At least until I rebooted and it > disappeared again. > > > > Here's where I think it might relate to what you > guys are experiencing... > > > > I found this post: > > > http://www.jpilot.org/pipermail/jpilot/2004-December/004576.html > ---- > boy that took a long time for that link to open...No > question about it, > that problems have cropped up as they have been > releasing changes to 2.6 > kernel - I think Alan referred to it from one of the > many bugzilla > entries at redhat. > > Fedora is way past that in kernels - like Alan, I am > using FC-3 > # uname -r > 2.6.10-1.770_FC3 > # current boot - I have stepped backwards in kernels > to try to find > working USB/Treo combo > > # rpm -q kernel > kernel-2.6.9-1.724_FC3 > kernel-2.6.9-1.667 > kernel-2.6.10-1.741_FC3 > kernel-2.6.10-1.760_FC3 > kernel-2.6.9-1.681_FC3 > kernel-2.6.10-1.766_FC3 > kernel-2.6.10-1.770_FC3 > kernel-2.6.11-1.14_FC3 > kernel-2.6.11-1.27_FC3 > kernel-2.6.12-1.1376_FC3 > kernel-2.6.12-1.1372_FC3 > > gives you a clue of the various kernels that FC-3 > has gone through > ---- > > > > These guys are saying my problem has to do with > the kernel maintainer using > > patches that were not thoroughly tested. > > > > Have either of you guys been able to sync *any* > pda with your current setup? > ---- > Kyocera 7135 yes - but it died > Treo 650 no > > even though /dev/pilot exists, neither jpilot nor > pilot-xfer seem to be > able to talk through it to the device - as Alan > pointed out, the > bugzilla entries at bugzilla.redhat.com suggest that > there is a timing > issue going on and tracking the bugzilla entries, it > doesn't appear that > they have been resolved yet and they seem to be more > than 6 months old. > > Thought I would be able to get bluetooth working but > am seemingly unable > to get Treo to send over a password to computer that > computer will > accept. Pretty much punted the issue of USB & Treo > on this thing for > now. Bluetooth should be able to work - I'm just > trying to get it done > in less than 10 hours. > > Craig > > > -- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by MailScanner, and is > believed to be clean. > > --------------------------------------------------- > PLUG-discuss mailing list - > PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail > settings: > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------- PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us To subscribe, unsubscribe, or to change you mail settings: http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss